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I clearly stated that there was probably garbage time involved with those games. I was simply stating that even against stronger teams in my league, it was not much of a problem to get balanced minutes. Obviously this is easier for my team because I am one of the strongest teams in the league, but the argument was made about the Warriors and Spurs being able to manage minutes and that not applying to BB, when it actually does in my opinion. The fact that they dominated the league helped them manage their minutes more. This is all I was trying to point out. When you team is much more on level with your opponents and you win less than 15-16 games in a season, minutes are harder to manage and I agree with you on that! The fact is that better teams will have more garbage time in their games, which means they won't have as many players getting over 35 minutes in a game. Just like in the NBA, if your team in BB does not win 66%+ of your games, your better players are going to be playing more minutes because the games are harder and closer. Sorry if I didn't clarify my opinion and points very well in my last few posts. I'm lazy.

if a better player starts and there is no garbage time, you can't get those splits, I'm sure you know that yourself. But if you can provide examples of starters who play less than 30 minutes when:
- they are not in foul trouble/let them play had been selected
- they have no injury
- there is no garbage time
- their rating is better than the rating of the backup

I can provide you with dozens of examples where situation with all the conditions fulfilled...before they removed blanks.

the Warriors and Spurs being able to manage minutes and that not applying to BB, when it actually does in my opinion.

This is funny. The Spurs got fined for sending Duncan, Parker and Ginobili back to Texas instead of Miami 2 years ago. They almost beat the reigning champions on the road even without those three. Suggesting that the Spurs or the Warriors put in the 2nd and 3rd lines because the starters could accumulate enough margin is just untrue. They both had a balanced roster, they had great players coming off the bench (Diaw, Belinelli, Mills, Joseph, Splitter, Iguodala, Lee, Livingston, Ezeli etc) and the drop in production on both sides of the floor was minimal when the backups were mixed in. Even under these circumstances, you cannot get a sub 30 minute game from your starters in this game, it's just not doable at the moment.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 7/3/2015 2:43:23 AM

I've been an on and off again player for a few years now... I believe it was around season 16 - 22 that I got really into the game, quit once, and came back, before ultimately quitting again (until a few days ago)...

I didn't have a particular reason for quitting, even back then I always thought the game was well crafted and very enjoyable...

With that being said, the game can be quite time consuming. It takes a lot of time to learn the ins and outs of the game system...

(As opposed to something like 2K which has moved away from SIM and more into the realm of arcade-ism by laying every stat, rating, etc. out for you right from the get go)

For what it's worth I think the supporter feature is priced too high... As a semi-diehard fan of this game I'd consider buying it at this price point, I can't see any casual player doing the same.

Maybe they should do a lesser Supporter package with fewer options or with more limited ones. For example, you pay half but you get 10 bookmarks instead of 50, 6 skill search on TL instead of 8 etc etc.

I don't know about all of you, but I believe in the product we're selling.

Rather than argue about all these trivial points I think we should focus on what the actual problem is. The game is struggling to bring in users, and struggling to keep them. New users aren't leaving because they're worried about equal minutes or all these other bells and whistles that they don't even understand yet.

In my mind the problem is - how do we go about better advertising the game, and what can we offer new users so that they quickly get hooked? I don't think the problem has anything to do with the actual game.

Last edited by Chekreyes at 7/6/2015 5:42:26 PM

New users with enthusiasm would make the game more interesting for sure, we don't need to change the game, we just need new managers, with them the game is immediately more interesting (Y) more people - more fun.