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226463.73 in reply to 226463.56
Date: 9/23/2012 6:02:04 AM
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Dude, 2-3 zone just doesn't work. It's proved. I've tried everything, starting from high shot blocking, 2-3 zone, and nothing stops Look Inside more than the neutral Man to Man.

In my opinion, 2-3 zone and shot blocking totally don't justify the myth that they stop LI. We (they, actually) need to fix 2-3 zone and make it a real effective defensive tactic against LI.

Otherwise, 99.9% of B3 teams will continue to play LI and M2M.

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226463.74 in reply to 226463.73
Date: 9/23/2012 6:41:02 AM
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Maybe high shot blocking is needed for guards not for the bigs?:D To make chasedown blocks like lebron does?

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226463.75 in reply to 226463.73
Date: 9/23/2012 6:59:24 AM
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I know mate, I've tried it so many times, with club, NT and etc, but its just not effective.
Those who say that's not true, they just have some myths, SB+ Defense, Guards... but everyone knows what's the best strategy in this GE, LI m2m rules.

This is where we hold them!
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226463.76 in reply to 226463.73
Date: 9/23/2012 10:45:25 AM
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I think, to run effective 2-3 zone a team needs to have all players with high OD,ID,SHB not only Centers and if you have high RB you will have a high advantage against LI.

Last edited by Edin [AlbNT] at 9/23/2012 10:46:41 AM

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226463.77 in reply to 226463.76
Date: 9/23/2012 5:03:44 PM
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Oh really, please be welcome to play 2-3 zone in our next game.

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226463.78 in reply to 226463.77
Date: 9/23/2012 11:42:10 PM
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hahaha, I play what I want ;)

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From: Xsago

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226463.80 in reply to 226463.73
Date: 9/25/2012 6:07:09 PM
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Has it occurred to you that maybe using a 2-3 zone isn't so much about your players, but your opponents?

From: MetallicA

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226463.81 in reply to 226463.80
Date: 9/25/2012 7:20:51 PM
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Which means what? Can you explain it further your idea?

From: Xsago

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226463.82 in reply to 226463.81
Date: 9/26/2012 2:25:32 AM
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My theory is the following: The 2-3 zone only works against a certain type for opponents. It has pros and cons.

pros:
- improved rebounding
- improved inside defense

cons:
- more space for outside shooters and drivers
- open passing lanes

When the opponent has guards who are good shooters (JS+JR) and/or drivers (DV+IS) the 2-3 zone helps them (especially without weakside shotblocking). High playmaking ability (PA+HN) is enhanced with a 2-3 zone and leads to great passes from the guards to the inside players i.e. higher percentage shots for the big men. The second part is the biggest issue why 2-3 zones often seem to "fail" IMO. Just look at the assist-to-turnover ratios of your opponents against 2-3 zones.

Often the cons outweigh the pros. The current set of players in BB makes the 2-3 zone ineffective against most good teams. This is especially true in high end competitions like the B3.

I actually think the same (with different skillsets of course) holds for the 3-2 zone, it's just very few players teams (if any) have the personnel to "beat" a 3-2 zone.

In general, my belief is that well balanced players "kill" zones.

P.S. For more details read my post a dozen posts earlier.

Last edited by Xsago at 9/26/2012 2:28:22 AM

From: MetallicA

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226463.83 in reply to 226463.82
Date: 9/26/2012 2:49:17 AM
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You only confirmed what I said before. 2-3 doesn't work on B3 level.

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