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173944.74 in reply to 173944.71
Date: 2/22/2011 10:23:07 AM
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the main issue here is how to engage people into NT training
agreed.
you can't keep a 450k on a farm because that farm should play at least in second div and this is very unlikley to happen for periods higher than a season
counter-example:(7558003), $540k, 7 months in division IV, alive and kicking


Sure, I did not say it was imposible. I did say it was unlikely, and I still think that.

Farm teams might survive for longer periods, but how many of them could you manage to have for a specific country? Managing 8-10 farms like that one is harder than making good runs in the WC without farms :)

Still, farm teams are an issue but I don't really think is something the BBs really consider a problem. If it were like that an easy solution had been aplied long ago (Like limiting that amount of salary paid to a given player cannot be higher than, say, 80% of total salary share for more than two consequetive weeks, so you can still give some freedom to managers and avoiding the most easy form of farming). A typical BB answer would be: "If we thing that farming becomes a dominant strategy for NT, we will look at it and found a solution" :D

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173944.75 in reply to 173944.73
Date: 2/23/2011 5:06:08 AM
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counter-example:(7558003), $540k, 7 months in division IV, alive and kicking

It's just about how long it takes before lack of funds (another season or two?) and then his NT would have trouble to find another team which will be able to keep him at least one season.


1 or 2 seasons, and in this time, they will prepare some new farm teams for this player :-)

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Date: 2/23/2011 5:12:16 AM
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In my eyes it's not so easy to find a team with enough funds and willing to stay in game as a farm. Especially with current transfer prices. But maybe some countries have different experience.

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Date: 2/23/2011 5:38:57 AM
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switzerland has no farm team. fortunately we have a few swiss teams where our best players are playing. the rest is playing in the highest divisions overall the world.
the bad thing about that is, that our players salary will never be higher than 350k. but the good thing with this system is, that our best players are always in good GS. and if you are a small country like us (less than 300managers) it is the only way to stay competitive with the biggest countries...

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Date: 2/23/2011 6:00:25 AM
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In my eyes it's not so easy to find a team with enough funds and willing to stay in game as a farm. Especially with current transfer prices. But maybe some countries have different experience.


It's not so easy in the small countries like ours and yours, but in big countries, I think is not a problem to find few teams like this.
But this is just my humble opinion :-)

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Date: 2/23/2011 6:35:44 AM
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Salary over 350k is not needed, especially when salaries are going down each season. And I think concept of Div I in home country is best way.
Biggest countries has just 2 main advantages:
- more chances to find a farm
- more drafted players every season gives more chances to find high potential players with high starting skills

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173944.80 in reply to 173944.78
Date: 2/23/2011 6:38:33 AM
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Not sure about that, because it is not easy to save enough funds in lower divisions. Best possibility for farm is higher division team which decides to end as a competitive team, sell all players to have as much funds as possible and than continue as a farm.

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Date: 2/23/2011 9:44:09 AM
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Not sure about that, because it is not easy to save enough funds in lower divisions. Best possibility for farm is higher division team which decides to end as a competitive team, sell all players to have as much funds as possible and than continue as a farm.

Basically the incomes of the top divisions are the same all over the world,every country with some hundred of teams can easily find famrs....

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Date: 2/23/2011 9:58:57 AM
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So, then I'm very unlucky in looking for farms I have found almost none in our country.

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Date: 2/23/2011 10:12:41 AM
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I have to explain myself better:in a game like this there is a continue turnover of the users,so while some user will sign up,other will quit the game
If you can convince somone who want to quit the game to use his dying team to substain a player for the our Nt,then you have a farm
Surely,more teams there are in a nation,and more competitive are the teams(because the money of a farm come from players's sale),more farm teams you can find.But I can't believe that no one in your country leave the game in the last seasons,the point is that you should work before they are done,trying to sensitize the community to leave their team for the community when they decide to leave

I could give you an argument if you talk about "half farm",ie active users that for a period decide to train a substain a Nt player because they don't have other stimuli,but are still active and could return to a normal game in a future time.For this kind of team,effectively main countries could be advantaged,because also lower team divisions can afford a 150-200k players that are still developing

Last edited by Steve Karenn at 2/23/2011 10:14:24 AM

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173944.84 in reply to 173944.83
Date: 2/23/2011 10:27:05 AM
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I have done just what you described. But do you know more effective way than asking people for think of it before they leave on forum etc.? And even if I have done it again and again no one ever wrote me he wants to be a farm. We have few farms but in this situation I knew that teams are going to leave and I asked manager to become a farm. But fortunatelly we don't have too much players that need a farm. I think more about farm for developing younger players with reasonable salary as that players can afford lower divisions team with not so big funds. Later these players can be bought by Div I, Div II teams as secondaries are high enough.

Last edited by rwystyrk at 2/23/2011 10:27:37 AM

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