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From: darykjozef

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I think if you trimmed your number of trainees from six down to four, you would have 4 guys getting 48 minutes a week without much difficulty.

The players that are popping faster than him are shorter, some by as much as 5 inches.

I'll preface the following by admitting that I know next to nothing about training guard skills; but I'm suddenly intrigued enough to wonder if the taller players would have any better luck training JR (outside shooting) for Wingmen...?

We've learned that training one-on-one for forwards trains IS, where one-on-one for guards does NOT train IS. I'd be interested to hear anyone with extensive experience training Wingmen chime in at this point.

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I think if you trimmed your number of trainees from six down to four, you would have 4 guys getting 48 minutes a week without much difficulty.

but, this would be a waste of 2 training slots. waste a lot of money.:)

IMHO there's no much difference in speed training when player plays 45 and 48 minutes. I think differences shows up when your player have much better other skill, and 5 inches is to little to affect for training speed so much.

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IMHO there's no much difference in speed training when player plays 45 and 48 minutes.


There is indeed a pretty significant difference.

45 minutes doesn't come anywhere near close to 93.75% training.

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IMHO there's no much difference in speed training when player plays 45 and 48 minutes.


my observation about 8 weeks training:

Outside Shooting
PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 2-8 weeks


That's a difference of 6(!) weeks.

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IMHO there's no much difference in speed training when player plays 45 and 48 minutes.


There is indeed a pretty significant difference.

45 minutes doesn't come anywhere near close to 93.75% training.

The difference is more than 6.25%. I don't think, however, that it is _that_ much more.

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I bet it's at least 25% reduction.

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Are you serious? That much for only 3 minutes short?

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Yes, there's a big emphasis placed on getting to 48.

I can't say that it's specifically that much, but it's a lot more than most people think.

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Thank you for making such a clear statement about it!

From: darykjozef

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I think if you trimmed your number of trainees from six down to four, you would have 4 guys getting 48 minutes a week without much difficulty.

but, this would be a waste of 2 training slots. waste a lot of money.:)

IMHO there's no much difference in speed training when player plays 45 and 48 minutes. I think differences shows up when your player have much better other skill, and 5 inches is to little to affect for training speed so much.


You have the luxury of having 6 similarly-skilled trainees, so your minutes are evenly distributed. I think you'll find that if you sell, say, half of them and try to continue training the remaining half in tandem with new trainees, you may struggle to get the less-skilled trainees onto the court at all.

But that's beside the point. Others have already made the case for training the full 48 every week; what I'm more interested in is whether you've given thought to training the taller players at the wing positions (SG/SF) rather than PG/SG.

@ Everyone:
I'll ask again if there is anyone who has had extensive experience training Wingmen who would be willing to share their experience...?

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