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270734.77 in reply to 270734.76
Date: 6/2/2015 12:56:57 PM
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I wonder how can someone say that the new FA system is good or bad when WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED?

BB must have a world record or something of not letting its users know the rules (!!!) of the game.

Disrespectful, at least.

So, now you may continue to debate based on speculation. Don't forget to find out the rules on your own.

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270734.79 in reply to 270734.77
Date: 6/2/2015 1:42:13 PM
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I wonder how can someone say that the new FA system is good or bad when WE DON'T KNOW WHAT CHANGED?

BB must have a world record or something of not letting its users know the rules (!!!) of the game.

Disrespectful, at least.

So, now you may continue to debate based on speculation. Don't forget to find out the rules on your own.


I agree. We don't know the full extent of the changes to the FA policy, and that's how it always goes with a change/adjustment.

Over the course of BB evolution, the workings of various BB systems (training, enthusiasm, GDP, etc...) have always been figured out (to some degree) over time by the BB community. Managers make guesses, test those guesses, update their info, and work to improve their team and their understanding of the game (sometimes with the help of other managers who share their research).

With this FA availability adjustment, lots of managers are now calling for an open book policy on how the FA system works. It seems that this is somewhat motivated by the retirement of certain players that some managers felt should not have been retired, as if Marin owes the BB community some sort of 'audit' power that he must now answer to.

Clearly, Marin owes us no such thing. As BB managers, it is up to us to determine the workings of the new system, via research, tracking, and observation, and then use these learnings to better our standing and skillset as managers within the Buzzerbeater framework.

Last edited by Iguanadon Joe at 6/2/2015 1:42:39 PM

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270734.81 in reply to 270734.74
Date: 6/2/2015 2:11:56 PM
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2 of those were mine and one from Manon. None of the 4 posts were offensive in any way. I thought Manon might have decided that his provocation was not worth the follow up and deleted everything, eh :D. It would make it interesting if some other GM deleted the posts though!

Edit: I've just seen Perpete's reply. #FreeManon

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/2/2015 2:23:16 PM

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270734.83 in reply to 270734.80
Date: 6/2/2015 2:21:51 PM
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He is the 5th of his generation with potential>=HoF in terms of TSP, I guess it has been a really unfortunate draft for us then.
hruuuudey. The rule for 18-20yo is also starting to look a little harsh. If we believe this quote then the 5th best 18yo/high potential prospect in the largest BB nation got axed. Just how strict are these new rules!? I'm starting to think that the 70TSP extreme estimate I gave, might not be that unrealistic after all lol :D

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270734.84 in reply to 270734.79
Date: 6/2/2015 2:34:37 PM
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What we know is that high salary/high potential young players (21-25yo) are retiring, while they wouldn't have in the previous system. Also, since we can't see other manager's players, we will never be able to assess:
a)what TSP is needed for FA at every age/potential combination
b) if there are differences between a player fired and a player in a botified team
This is just impossible because nobody is able to gather the data. This isn't like a GS or Training Speed project.

Also nobody can stop Marin from changing the rules to his liking without notice, since he has kept them secret to everyone else, including the GMs as it's becoming evident. This is not even a matter of trust in Marin, it's just that if he changes the parameters nobody will ever know!

Whether you like this situation or not is up to you :?

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270734.86 in reply to 270734.85
Date: 6/2/2015 2:56:18 PM
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my my, 6 JR, 7/7 defense, 5 passing, 6 stamina...fabulous prospect at 6'9''.

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