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From: Koperboy

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188524.77 in reply to 188524.76
Date: 7/19/2011 7:34:25 AM
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So you buy a 18-y old SG with atrocious JS, atrocious HA and respectable IS! Then train his DR to Legendary until you get your Derrick Rose ;)

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Date: 7/19/2011 8:28:24 AM
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I don't wanna assume anything. You give me a formula to calculate my SF's total. I do that and come up with his total, which is below the projected cap. Alright. But then you say: oh he could have capped already in a different position. What good is it to me?
Of course, your formula must correlate with salary position calculation, otherwise how would we know which one to use?

p.s. I do believe that cap depends on the skills and not on the salary.

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Date: 7/19/2011 8:37:12 AM
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You describe a non-problem. You have to calculate ALL of the 5 different cap formulas. The position you keep insisting on is a salary label. To know whether he is capped or not you have to run a calculation for ALL positions and then take a look at his higehst result.

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Date: 7/19/2011 8:58:26 AM
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You do that. I don't wanna spend half a day to come up with something that maybe is close to the truth.

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188524.81 in reply to 188524.80
Date: 7/19/2011 9:16:14 AM
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But you spend half a day complaining about other people doing research for you? If the matter is of so low interest for you that you refuse to put the five formulas into a spreadsheet which calculates it for you, why do you bother about the topic at all?

And even more so - why and based on what data do you claim that the concept behind that formulas is wrong?

Last edited by LA-seelenjaeger at 7/19/2011 9:16:52 AM

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From: brian

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188524.82 in reply to 188524.80
Date: 7/19/2011 9:27:14 AM
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I don't wanna spend half a day to come up with something that maybe is close to the truth.


Half a day, wtf are you slow? It took mins to paste the coef and formula into excel and align all 5 of the positions run off one line of player skills. If you can't manage that, just wait until its incorporated to his spreadsheet tool. Then you can complain about not knowing how to use that too.

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Date: 7/19/2011 9:48:49 AM
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But if you want to assume that the cap formula is indeed the salary formula, then you must explain why after sixteen seasons there are still no SFs with a salary above 200k in the game.

I would bet, that it's because of salary formula for other positions and speed of training. Because it's difficult to train high enough all the skills that have influence on SF salary due to height. And also probably there could be player that are SG's but have SF calculation over 200k. For example JS 20 JR 12 OD 20 ID 10 RE 10 SB 7 gets over 250k for SF but player would be SG.


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188524.85 in reply to 188524.84
Date: 7/19/2011 9:54:45 AM
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Mogul?

And thanks for all the work, is really quite fun to play around with. And I like how there are no free skills now.

From: thylacine

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188524.86 in reply to 188524.82
Date: 7/19/2011 11:32:22 AM
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Thanks for the tip! It really went a bit quicker:) The only reason I argue is because I care and appreciate JosefKa's work and want to contribute to the research, no need to get knickers in a twist.
It still seems strange though that highest salary does not correlate with highest skill total. Why would they have to be different?
Because you think I'll be upping passing cause it's really cheap for a SF and I have 3 pops till he turns PG, but in reality you'll be capping out after one pop at hidden PG total.
Maybe http://www.buzzer-manager.com/en/estimation_salaire/ is not correct?

p.s. Why is JR more for C than PF?

Last edited by thylacine at 7/19/2011 11:39:38 AM

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188524.87 in reply to 188524.86
Date: 7/19/2011 11:47:48 AM
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Mind dropping a line or two about the data and a possible nonlinear approach? Since salary and some other things are measured in an exponential structure, it seems a bit odd that potential is such a linear thing.

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