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72142.77 in reply to 72142.73
Date: 2/25/2009 5:46:48 AM
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Japan, or any country, needs 15 managers prepared to one position train a domestic prospect alongside an international prospect to have a competitive u21 in two seasons time, an NT in four.
If it has 27, you better all communicate well. As the champ, shouldn't you be setting an example to your community anyway? In England, Da bomby has produced our best prospect among this year's 21 year olds.

So, on the BB3 front, you're ignoring the swings and roundabouts point then? What you gain from maximizing arena revenue in a soft league you pay out in extra salaries?

@shoei
If there's a cap, more creative thinking is required within the parameters and the game language has more integrity. If wondrous is merely average, the game's custodians are not doing their job.
For example, Lebron in BB has proficient jump shot.
So yeah, no issues with that. I think it makes you work harder and how you want your team to play and what you need to do to achieve it.

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72142.78 in reply to 72142.63
Date: 2/25/2009 5:47:38 AM
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The proposed system would definitively discriminate teams from small countries.


That really depends upon the details, doesn't it?


sorry... we can wait for ages for the details. but the message in the news, is quite clear to me...

Also [second thing], we be making good better use of player nationalities, and domestic players will be slightly (typically 10-20%) better economically than foreign ones. The details of this system are designed to be fair to countries of different sizes.”

so tell me what the bold bit means, when it doesnt mean that home grown players will be cheaper in wages or to buy than players that are bought from abroad and trained... if i am wrong, i apologize big time, if my english is near as good as people say it is, you are benefting big countries (understandable from a company profit point off view) big time over small countries.

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72142.80 in reply to 72142.77
Date: 2/25/2009 6:03:52 AM
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If it has 27, you better all communicate well. As the champ, shouldn't you be setting an example to your community anyway? In England, Da bomby has produced our best prospect among this year's 21 year olds.


sorry but this is way too funny. telling the japanees players too communicate better. i have been quite active, i think one off the more active players in the england community and i think there were 3 players that have visited and commented on the english NT forums. Even although we have tried to get players involved alot more.

when we wanted to show NT potential players skills noone wanted to disclose this info to the other players, because it would give competitors a huge disadventage.

What should they communicate in the japanees league? disclose players ratings so they can trade or train players and than at a later date trade them?

From: Astragoth

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72142.81 in reply to 72142.79
Date: 2/25/2009 6:09:26 AM
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we have had it too easy? LOL... i have seen many players in big leagues say this about the smaller leagues.

I can assure you that I have 1 regret and 1 regret only. That is that i picked a small league to start in. I want a fun game and not get promoted to the first league and not have a challenge getting there. you should feel priviliged that you get worth for your time/money.

Let me give you one example that you are oh so wrong that we are having it easy. If I would play a div IV team in Italy or USA, I always get hammered. Simply because their teams are better than mine. They started later than I did. So how on earth are their teams so much better? Maybe because the stiff competition makes you better? ps no that doesnt make me a bad coach, i am training for the long term, so I bet that in a season or 2 my team will be better than theirs.

But on the other side, you havent given any facts or reasoning why it would be a good change. so hope not too many people take it as serious as i do :)

Last edited by Astragoth at 2/25/2009 6:10:35 AM

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72142.82 in reply to 72142.80
Date: 2/25/2009 6:17:06 AM
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In England, a lot gets done on BB mail.
You don't need to compare stats, the NT coach just needs to lead training development. Hence no need to publish NT teams stats and harm the club competition.
But, yes, there was some irony in my post. I think you missed it.

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72142.83 in reply to 72142.81
Date: 2/25/2009 6:18:02 AM
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wow, talk about overreacting... we don't even know what they mean with "fair to countries of different sizes"


Last edited by mark_lenders at 2/25/2009 6:18:13 AM

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72142.85 in reply to 72142.84
Date: 2/25/2009 6:32:50 AM
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i know what you mean. what is an active user? Basketball isnt a big sport in the uk. we might have 520 coaches loging in on a regular basis, this doesnt mean they are really active. I am sure you know what I mean. And yes, Japan has it even harder than us.

I know the thread you made a link too. I have read it. And the clear outcome might have been clear to you but it isnt that clear. if the smaller countries have had such an easy ride, why do they perform so badly in the BBB? Anyway. we have another thread for that :)

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72142.86 in reply to 72142.77
Date: 2/25/2009 6:34:10 AM
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I'll highlight the most amusing part of this reply.

Japan, or any country, needs 15 managers prepared to one position train a domestic prospect alongside an international prospect to have a competitive u21 in two seasons time, an NT in four.


I think in my election speech when trying to once gain the England U21 managers role I outlined exactly this! Its nice to see that my words didnt fall directly on deaf ears...

but are you suggesting all managers directly competing with one another sit cosily around a table and divide out the fruits of our traning labour?!! HA

As Champ the example I show is to educate where possible how managers in the chasing pack and aspiring 1st division managers can better their decisions to help close the gap. These are merely opinions stemmed from my experience and done so in confidence that i dont need to keep information I believe gives me an advantage from anyone. Ive done this now for those that want to listen both inside and outside of Japan and will continue to do so.

What I wont do is as you suggest set an example that weakens my team uneccessarily. If your aspirations this season are to stabilize a position in the EBBL and not to challenge for honors then its 'nice for you' to be a community spokesman and lead the way admirably is single position training until you can compete at the business end of the table.

As for the swings and roundabouts quip; am I supposed to never aim higher than domestic success... if i opt to cut salaries and overshoot I can with bad luck/injuries lose my crown for what ($100k a week?!) at some point I will want to make a run at the BB3 and in 3 seasons I save $4mil odd which buys me 1 player (or more seats!) that at present i cant see how would improve my team considerably.

There is an angle and take on every new decision announced and my retort is an immediate reaction to how I initally read into how it will effect me (and in turn many more like me in smaller nations)

If you have a counter response, no problem at all but at least let it be one that makes sense.

Do you think I enjoy being in the position I am in.. Id rather be in an Asian Superleague or perhaps transfer across to my country of domicile... you better not hope for the 2nd as you will have a mighty bare trophy cabinet from here on in.

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72142.87 in reply to 72142.81
Date: 2/25/2009 6:35:15 AM
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Get to the EBBL, then slag it off. You are some way from doing that.

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