BuzzerBeater Forums

BB Global (English) > 5th place is the new 4th place

5th place is the new 4th place

Set priority
Show messages by
This Post:
00
166665.78 in reply to 166665.77
Date: 12/22/2010 1:57:16 PM
AS Barroom Heroes
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
10201020
Second Team:
Lone Pine Productions
I'll throw this out there to see what kind of opinion it generates..

Currently in my conference (Italian Div.II), the standings look like this:



1 	Stella Rossa Arenzano    18 	3 	2258 	1509 	
2 	AS Barroom Heroes        17 	4 	2105 	1652 	
3 	Umpa Lumpa               12     9 	2117 	1869 	
4 	Polinia2000turate        12 	9 	1906 	1882 	
5 	desiree                  11 	10 	1773 	1599 	
6 	Audace Pescia '74        11 	10 	1877 	1766 	
7 	Dinamo Talarikiev        10     11 	2151 	1979 	
8 	Revolutionary Panthers   6 	15 	1786 	1998



Both 3rd and 4th place teams have already said that if they were to find themselves in the exact same situation ad the end of next season, they would give a walkover in the final match. If I were them, I would too.

Edit: So would the team that is currently 6th (obviously if he were to in the 3rd or 4th place teams' shoes)

Last edited by SpicyMcHaggis™ at 12/22/2010 2:06:59 PM

This Post:
00
166665.79 in reply to 166665.77
Date: 12/22/2010 2:01:43 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
196196
Apologies - after i saw the B3 thread I re-posted this there.

This Post:
11
166665.80 in reply to 166665.78
Date: 12/22/2010 2:09:57 PM
Totwart
ACBB
Overall Posts Rated:
31553155
Second Team:
Furabolos
Well, all of you have the right to choose bad decisions

This Post:
00
166665.81 in reply to 166665.70
Date: 12/22/2010 2:30:10 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
177177
Is it a draft or a lottery, hard to tell. And not very smart for a team to bank on the draft to make them better.

This Post:
00
166665.82 in reply to 166665.81
Date: 12/22/2010 2:34:02 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
406406
Thats what happens in reality all the time - if this shouldnt be the case in this game it would be better to abolish the draft system and install some better alternatives.

This Post:
11
166665.83 in reply to 166665.80
Date: 12/22/2010 3:41:05 PM
AS Barroom Heroes
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
10201020
Second Team:
Lone Pine Productions
Well, all of you have the right to choose bad decisions

Well, there comes a time when, if lots of experienced people agree that they would all make a certain decision, you might have to wonder if the decision isn't so bad after all...;)

This Post:
22
166665.84 in reply to 166665.83
Date: 12/22/2010 4:57:31 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
225225
Well, all of you have the right to choose bad decisions

Well, there comes a time when, if lots of experienced people agree that they would all make a certain decision, you might have to wonder if the decision isn't so bad after all...;)

It's the outcome that's the validating factor, not the decision process

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
This Post:
11
166665.85 in reply to 166665.83
Date: 12/22/2010 5:23:30 PM
Totwart
ACBB
Overall Posts Rated:
31553155
Second Team:
Furabolos
Yoy forget the fact that one of them could be 6th if both make a WO
Anyway, the difference between being 4th and 5th are 200k (if the 4th is out in the first round). Do you think it's better 200k loosing a week of training than the posibility of win the PO match and better fan survey for next season?
And anyway, in low divisions the difference is even shorter.
And this without taking into account that 3rd and 4th teams that think they have no chances to win the first roung, sell part of their roster, so they pay not so high salaries.
I'm not saying the measure is perfect or that they couldn't be better ones, but I don't think it's so clear that being 5th is better than being 4th

Last edited by Foto at 12/22/2010 5:23:48 PM

This Post:
00
166665.86 in reply to 166665.82
Date: 12/22/2010 5:27:43 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
177177
In reality there are salary caps and revenue sharing. Unless you want to go down that route...

From: ned
This Post:
11
166665.87 in reply to 166665.84
Date: 12/22/2010 5:32:55 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
Overall Posts Rated:
823823
Second Team:
Slaytanic
I don't see any reason to "defend" this news. Try to make a stat of the teams that have won the division starting from the 4th place, then check the salary of a top teams and you can see that there is something wrong under the economic point of view. How many games you've to do to earn 700k in the playoff?

Instead of say this is good, try to say why this is good, when 90% of the the people says that probably something is wrong maybe they can have some reasons to say that.
The worst thing in this new benefit for 5th place teams is that we are ruin the "ethic" of the sport, it's quite strange that 90% of people prefer to arrive in the 5th place instead to play playoff.

Last matter; I appreciate that this new has been announced 1 season in advance, due to the fact that we can't do anything to change it, why next time BBs don't try to "promote" a poll listening what the community would like to chose about a similar decision?

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
From: Foto

To: ned
This Post:
00
166665.88 in reply to 166665.87
Date: 12/22/2010 5:59:58 PM
Totwart
ACBB
Overall Posts Rated:
31553155
Second Team:
Furabolos
As I've written above, I can't see why 200k are better than a full training week, better fan survey for next season (which will give you more money), and the chance of playing the POs and maybe win the first round.
What was very bad for the game is the previous situation, where the teams that reached the finals got 2M more than 5th and 8th and 1M more than the rest of the teams

Edit:

it's quite strange that 90% of people prefer to arrive in the 5th place instead to play playoff.


I don't think you have asked the whole community, so this statement is a bit risky, and probably far away from reality

Last edited by Foto at 12/22/2010 6:04:48 PM

Advertisement