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268259.78 in reply to 268259.77
Date: 3/18/2015 6:02:39 PM
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This is what I did in the first season of utopia and I still have the 2 better guys I trained back then. Yes training 5 guys instead of 2 at lower potential might ease the cost issue.

the fan survey and merchandise benefits that accrue?
If they are not from your nation you get a boost of 1 ball or so in the fa survey in my experience and with a basic PR manager I was still constantly below the league average in merchandising even after 2 seasons with mostly the same trainees.

I don't know how to value that on the ledger, but I do know not having to go out and buy a backup guard/SG/SF every few seasons and eat depreciation there is worth it.
I don't believe depreciation is a significant factor between 25 and 30. I might agree it shouldn't be like that, but unless you overpay I think it's a fair assumption to think you can resell at a minimum loss, if any.

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Date: 3/18/2015 7:09:43 PM
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Let's say you have an 18 year old, star potential player that you drafted (or even paid up to a couple hundred thousand for). You spend four or five seasons with a level 4 trainer two position training four or five other guys with him to get a guy built the way you want, say factor in another three hundred thousand for that (seventy weeks at roughly 20k/week, divided among five players). 500k for a player built the way you want, who can play meaningful minutes at any level in the game, for fifteen seasons, with the fan survey and merchandise benefits that accrue? I don't know how to value that on the ledger, but I do know not having to go out and buy a backup guard/SG/SF every few seasons and eat depreciation there is worth it.

I'm trying to follow your example, as it seems you are trying to give training a fair shake. What is the $20k per week you speak of? Thanks.

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268259.81 in reply to 268259.80
Date: 3/18/2015 8:34:26 PM
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That didn't sound right, so I took a quick look at the level four trainers on the market right now, just as a quick snapshot. Of the next ten level 4 trainers listed, only two have a salary under $20,000 and 8 are above that line. The bidding on the two under that line is at $520,200 for Leo Belu and $173,400 for Achacjusz Anonim, an auction with more than seven hours to run. Of the other eight level 4 trainers, only one has a salary in the $20's, and his bidding is already up to $325,000. Three salaries are in the $30's, three in the $40's, and the final guy has a salary of $79,340 (he also has a specialty).

So, upon closer scrutiny, a nice "calculation" turns out just to be a story. I would like to see fair calculations on this topic.

Last edited by Mike Franks at 3/18/2015 8:38:45 PM

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268259.87 in reply to 268259.86
Date: 3/18/2015 11:40:28 PM
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I was just here to explain the "20k a week" thing.

Okay, and you know the "20k a week" thing is pie in the sky, right? [I could have used much stronger language.] One out of ten in an admittedly small sample was affordable (unless the bidding soared after I looked), one was bid grossly high and the rest were already above $20k before they were even bought.

You cannot say New York City is generally populated with giraffes just because once there was a giraffe in NYC. You cannot say a level four trainer generally costs $20k a week just because one may have.

I would still like to see a fair computation of the current situation.

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