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A player is only valuable relative to the value of other players, so the more valuable 19 year olds are, the less valuable 18 year old $4k HoFers are.

Dont think you fully comprehend the "laws of relativity"

I don't have a said cure to stop the madness of the game drop off numbers. If they think everything is ok. then everything is ok.

The way I learned it was" if you care you speak up for the better of it, if you don't care. you say nothing and go about your business". So I think what your doing a very good thing.

Me personally i think the stubbornness not to scale back LI/lp balance is going to be this game down fall. A small scale back will not make anyone leave. I think a lot of long time managers would open up more on the game tactic wise, the market better in diversity of players to buy and sell. The money top teams and all teams are losing every years from not selling a motion guard and r&g pait, O iso player is just absurd, a bad basic guard in those tactics is 44k$ a week .you need a very expensive guard to be effective in outside offense tactics, the win don't come easy either, its just millions of dollars wasted or not attained but needed every season for a lot of teams.

I think the BB guys don't how to handle that, they got the market so close to their chest and want thing in certain order. I don't see how allowing outside team to make money is bad thing it still very ,very expensive to attain In order to good outside team it takes 3-5 seasons still there is no sure win with a outside teams,. li maybe 1season you'll see great success. That's just my opinion, not a fact or anything.

Last edited by Mr. Glass at 12/1/2013 4:34:27 PM

The opportunity to get a second team would put many countries from zero to he..., um, well maybe "okay" - I would join a micronation if it was possible and I would be very happy if we had more teams in Austria. I love all my fellow countrymen (no homo), but a fresh breeze would be very welcome. If we could get like 10% of the current userbase join a second nation that would be uber-awesome.

Spot on.
It was done with success in a similar game (based around football). For me (and I suspect other micronation users) it would be an opportunity to join a bigger nation (I'd probably start up a team in my native Australia).
You'd revitalize the game.

Yes they are aware of it and looking for solutions. Of course, doesn't mean easy solution or will happen or any expected dates, but they are not letting that game go down.

That's a politicians statement. We all know what a politicians word is worth.

Let's be honest... The users asks for W, offer X,Y and Z as a possible solution and finally either nothing happens or a solution § is developed, which nobody fully understands.

If there is no money, you can either cut the expenses or find other sources of income. Maybe a little bit of both would be the best - there is an abundance of users willing to GIVE you money for a second team. If properly done this could raise enough money to get the app coded - which will bring more users and more money...

Yes they are aware of it and looking for solutions. Of course, doesn't mean easy solution or will happen or any expected dates, but they are not letting that game go down.

That's a politicians statement. We all know what a politicians word is worth.

Let's be honest... The users asks for W, offer X,Y and Z as a possible solution and finally either nothing happens or a solution § is developed, which nobody fully understands.

If there is no money, you can either cut the expenses or find other sources of income. Maybe a little bit of both would be the best - there is an abundance of users willing to GIVE you money for a second team. If properly done this could raise enough money to get the app coded - which will bring more users and more money...

There are also apprentice developers in Real Life which offer (one, two, three or more times) to work for you without payment, just for "loving the game". The answer is always we don't need it...

Sincerely, it sounds strange. Naturally, not the first one who ask should receive an invite to read all the BB code, but you can do some verification, if you need to hire working people but you don't have enough money.

I really start to feel like a dinosaur here. The game is very old-fashioned. I still like it, but it does not attract much new consumers. The world has changed. What was cool 5 years ago, is so out-dated now. And not much changed in a game in the meantime.

Still no application for smartphones or tabs. No attractive minigames. Nothing, what is considered as "cool" these days.
I still like it. But I am 25 now.. I dont think any teenagers would find anything interesting here. So old-school :)

I really start to feel like a dinosaur here. The game is very old-fashioned. I still like it, but it does not attract much new consumers. The world has changed. What was cool 5 years ago, is so out-dated now. And not much changed in a game in the meantime.

Still no application for smartphones or tabs. No attractive minigames. Nothing, what is considered as "cool" these days.
I still like it. But I am 25 now.. I dont think any teenagers would find anything interesting here. So old-school :)

Im 48 years old so if your a dinosaur, i must be a fossil

Haha, I did not mean I am old :D Or older than others. I had in mind that trends are different these days and less people choose to play games like BB :) But I like your comment :))

You are definetly say the point of this discussion. I mean - app for phones and tabs. This is it what can change bad statistic. App is low cost and huge profits. People use phones in every single day in every single hour. And often there are situation - you wait for something or use communal transport and open Play Market and you think - hmm what new i can download. If there buzzerbeater app - we will have lots of new users. Of course lots of them download app, creat account and resign, but if there will be 100000 downloads and 10% users stay with us we will have 10000 new users. Second thing is that I will be happy if i can use mobile app when i'm at university for example.

I like your breaking down problems into categories.

I don't agree with economic imbalance though. If the market wasn't flooded, it wouldn't fix the problem, it would only return it to the starting point. Everyone would start training massive salary, no secondary skills players. They would be more expensive in the beginning, but would drop as more of them gets trained, so all over again.

Actually, I got an idea about this, I will make a new thread in suggestion page.