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That is more or less realism, just like in NBA if you choose to just run your starters then the bench guys will not develop. Also that is why we have scrimmages to run your Backups as starters when it doesn't matter. You can still player your PG as starter in the 2 regular games with a backup to watch his minutes, and he will get the training minutes. Then run your backup full 48 in the scrimmage.

Sorry, but i have to disagree. The scenario as I presented is not anywhere close to realism. And if I could play my starters in the regular games, and then my backups in the scrimmage...I would love that! In real life, you have practices, trainers, drills, B leagues, specific coaches etc to work with guys who might not get a single minute of game time.

What I am frustrated about, is that in this last game, my starters played all buy one minute of the game. if I start them again, I risk this happening again, and my starters will be at 94 minutes for the week, and my backups will be at 2 minutes each for the week. Now, I if that happens...I have hurt the game shape of my starters, and am forced to play my backups the entire scrimmage with no backup so they get their 48 minutes. In that scenario I have two exhausted PGs, and only 2 trainees with significant minutes. If this were real life, and real substituation patterns were happening...My starters would get 35-40 minutes...and my backups would get 8-13 minutes a game. IF this happened, I would end up with my starters at 70-80 which is probably still too many minutes, and my backups 16-26 after two games. In this scneario I could start the 26 minute guy, and play another trainee with no backup. So I'd end the week with two guys 70-80, two more guys 48+, and one more guy 10-20 minutes.

Again, there is no scenario that is realistic to me in which I need to be concerned that playing my starters is a bad thing.

Perhaps you should get starters with lower stamina, get better backups or get good enough starters to constantly blow out your opponents, play faster tactics. You can always play your backups in scrimmage for 48 minutes if it goes to that. Scrimmage result do not matter.

With asll due respect....really? You are suggesting that i need starters who dont have decent stamina? That is crazy. Again, my gripe is about how unrealstic this aspect of the game is. You can give me all the suggestions in the world, the fact is, NONE of them will simulate how real games go. There is no reason through normal game play that my starters shouldnt play around 38 minutes a game, give or take a few depending on game situations, and have the backups play the rest.

And if i have starters with great stamina, then they play the whole game, and that pretty much eliminates them from playing in the 2nd league game for the week, as anything but a backup. In this past game, my 21 year old PG set a personal record for points in a game (32) assists in a game (14) and minutes in a game (47)...his reward? He gets benched for the our next game....yeap, yeah that seems pretty realistic to me.

I gave you more than one option. It's realistic that your coach tryes to win the game for you.

And if i have starters with great stamina, then they play the whole game, and that pretty much eliminates them from playing in the 2nd league game for the week, as anything but a backup.

Get better skilled starters to blow out opponents or get better skilled backups so they get subbed in more often. If you have only starters you are doomed of having lousy game shape week after week. Everyone else can manage, but the game should be changed because you can't? With all due respect...really?

Turns out my player didn't get a full 48 minutes because he got injured lol

What substitution setting are you using? Let Coach Decide, Strictly Follow Depth Chart, Coach Picks From Depth Chart, Depth Chart Until 4th?

Your starters must be way better than your backups. If you were a coach and your starters were head and shoulder above your bench and the game wasn't decided yet would you sub on your bench?

Look at Lebron James’s last 3 games (all important games in the playoff). He played 46, 42 and 43 minutes. If the game was anyway else you would be in here complaining that the coach is subbing your best players and costing you the game.

And with training – What do you think would improve a players skills more? Playing in the B League and doing training drills etc OR getting regular minutes in the NBA and doing all the training drills? I would love for you to name me a player who came into the NBA at a later age in his career (say 25) and play as well as a top NBA player who has been in the league for 5+ season.

I personally think the game works in a realistic matter, not perfectly realistic but a simulation is never going to be perfectly realistic.

hi Jerry, I have been using Depth chart Til 4th

I hear you Sammy.....but my frustration is that I am in a situation where I can't start my starters for fear they will get too many minutes. So I am kind of stuck in no mans land, and that is not realistic. You are right, actual game time is the best way to bring a young guy up, but not being able to play my starters is not realistic. Like you said about Lebron, He had 88 minutes in two games.....does that mean that his game shape would automatically suffer for his next game? In Lebrons case, perhaps maybe so with the bad elbow But by and large, 90 minutes, let alone 75 minutes in two games wouldnt hurt a younger players performance.

Another case, is that in my game, I had a 10+ most if not all the 4th quarter, there were multiple times that it would have made sense to bring in the backups. But you never see an NBA player all of the 1st half. I can see leaving backups on the bench in the 4th quarter of a close game....but in the `1st half, you do your normal substitution pattern and make adjustments in the 2nd half. Even in important games, the backups will spell the starterrs for at least a few minutes.