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Anyway. The arena diminishing has already taken place. If I recall right people had the chance to diminish their arena's for over a full season, in season 11 or 12. It was clearly reported in the news. I am not sure, but I don't think there will be an other period for diminishing your arena.

the funny thing that they changed the arena end of season 12 again, without a warning or the possibility to react.

hm, at the time it changed they might not have announced it, but I'm sure they announced it was a limited time for managers to break down pieces of their arena's, before that posibility was put into place. It was also rather a long period. Manager that did not break down their arena in the first month or so, probably wheren't interested in doing so anyway, still there where several months that managers could tune down their arena. And again I repeat it was anounced it would be a limited time possibility. So I don't see the BBs giving that opportunity again, unless they think that even the 20k - 22k arenas are still to big and want to turn it down some more...

they make a change, and give us a oppurtunity to react to the change that it true, but after those time expired they change the system again without any warning. Then the BB said that they will make this up, that we could react, but till now nothing happens.

Remind me again what that second change was. Was it the 500 courtside seat limit or something else?

Remind me again what that second change was. Was it the 500 courtside seat limit or something else?

yes

but don't dsay that just impact courtside and vip, it is also a thing about speed when you have finished your desired 20k arena. If you had plan with lot more VIP and Courtside(which mysterical disppappered just after construction), i would have put this money in lower tie instead of the bleachers.

Okay, I was just wondering if there was a change I had forgotten about. I guess a handful of teams could have been adversely affected with this second change (i.e. those who had really really long seat-destruction periods after the first change), but I don't think this was such a big change even for the overall 20,000-seat population (which was pretty small). I understand your league is very different in this respect.

(i.e. those who had really really long seat-destruction periods after the first change),

this haven't to do with it, because it was changed and announced after the possibility to dimish already was expired.

And you could also have plans, who wasn't possible without "overbuilding" already when you build your targeted bleachers first and after the change reduct it.

For me this was a pretty bad sitution from the BB, because the VIP problem was known after day one and they didn't manage to announce the Change at a time you still could react.(also the think that lot of people build seats who are instantly destruct again, and you needed the time for your arena at that moment)

I see. It seems I don't remember the details well enough. So good luck. :-)

Don't start this again. The reasons for the change were explained (illogical arenas with 8000 courtside seats and 5000 bleachers etc.). You were trying to get the most out of demolishing and building. You were too hasty with your calculations and made too big of a change (thus long construction times), so basically you screwed yourself. So instead of whining about this in every arena thread, take it like a man and admit you were too hasty (and started too big of a shuffle) rebuilding your arena.

You were trying to get the most out of demolishing and building

allright calculating with the existing system is a mistake in a manager game, did i understand you right?

You were too hasty with your calculations and made too big of a change (thus long construction times), so basically you screwed yourself

without doing, it i would be screwed, when the surprising changes won't happen. Cool game concept of you.

allright calculating with the existing system is a mistake in a manager game, did i understand you right?

No, going for big changes right off the bat after a new limiting arena changes is the problem.
If new game engine comes out, that would benefit fielding 5 point guards above anyone else. Would you go and buy 5 great point guards quickly? Or would you wait a bit seeing if it is intended?
BB's saw people building illogical arenas, so they intervened. It was your own fault that you did such a big overhaul of your arena. Perhaps they should limit lower tier to 5000 aswell and we would not have this problem:) Everyone would have similar arenas...

No, going for big changes right off the bat after a new limiting arena changes is the problem.
If new game engine comes out, that would benefit fielding 5 point guards above anyone else. Would you go and buy 5 great point guards quickly? Or would you wait a bit seeing if it is intended?

if you have such a good memory, i ask the bb right afterthey change about it. But when you had to play with 5 point guards i at least expect that they mentioon that this isn't intended, and that they give me the possibility to sell then again and if you don't do it they will not promote you again because you playing the game who doesn't exist.

BB's saw people building illogical arenas, so they intervened

Bb didn't calculate how arena would look like, which is more weird ;) Because i believe a max formula is quite easy when you have the code, and that they might look like they known after the second test game. And remember Arena are very unlogical in BB. The building cost of the seats, when it is just about position. And normally it is cheaper to build near the ground.
And did you know how illogical arena extensions are, especially from 5k to 20k, you maybe get 500 extra seats in a arena without building a new one ;)

Perhaps they should limit lower tier to 5000 aswell and we would not have this problem:) Everyone would have similar arenas...

maybe, but they would be a lot of other possibilities, to give the affected person the possibility to make the same decision then the rest and don't push them into something they don't want.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 9/26/2010 6:37:08 AM

I dont think that limited maximum would be the solution. Even now looks weird that everyone on high-level have to have similar arenas. While from the beginning of this game was sure that tickets on bleachers are selling differently than courtside seats and so on. Therefore there is any space for implementing various solutions. Or I think might be.

However to the topic, I think that main problem of diminishing (weird word), is that if you give to the managers the opportunity now, it means getting huge money into the game at once. I think thats the only problem, isnt it?

Also there is possible that arena would serve as a "bank", so lot of managers would do that in the way - cumulate the seats, make a profit from them and right before key playoff game (might be after several seasons doing so), sell as much as possible to have the money for a huge skilled players...

This is serious problem, because it makes playof unbeatable by other strategy.

So I think that would be understandable if selling of these unwanted seats would mean that you would get money on decades. Imagine that you sell arena capacity for 1M. You cant get money right away, because it cost some time before this material buy someone else. Also the guy who is giving you the money want to have any profit from that and later he will pay you, more money he have for himself and for the construction company at disposal (you know that there are employees which needs salary, taxes to be paid, machines to be invested...).

So if you get from diminishing 80 percent, you have to be really glad. Also you likely accept that these 800k would be divided in 10 weeks, so you get 80k p/w