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16895.8 in reply to 16895.7
Date: 2/22/2008 7:06:14 PM
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I agree with Ragans though that a team shoudn't be penalized if you put up a guy on the TL and some less than intelligent individual buys him for way more than he's worth. It could definitely be reported but once they find there's no connection between the teams it should fall through.


We're not going to allow an artificial imbalance in the economy.

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16895.9 in reply to 16895.7
Date: 2/22/2008 9:11:09 PM
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That is the problem and that's why they've added the warning text. I agree with Ragans though that a team shoudn't be penalized if you put up a guy on the TL and some less than intelligent individual buys him for way more than he's worth. It could definitely be reported but once they find there's no connection between the teams it should fall through.

The team isn't penalized. The excessive profit is removed. If you don't want that to happen, well, don't list players at prices that are way too high.

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16895.10 in reply to 16895.9
Date: 2/22/2008 10:42:31 PM
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That is the problem and that's why they've added the warning text. I agree with Ragans though that a team shoudn't be penalized if you put up a guy on the TL and some less than intelligent individual buys him for way more than he's worth. It could definitely be reported but once they find there's no connection between the teams it should fall through.

The team isn't penalized. The excessive profit is removed. If you don't want that to happen, well, don't list players at prices that are way too high.

so somebody tell me whats to high?
anyway i bought crap for to high and i sold crap for to high, thats just a normal thing...
if it happen to you, you learn out of it and think twice before the next betklick...
anyway if you sell a player you have to klick twice if you buy only one false klick is enough....

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16895.11 in reply to 16895.10
Date: 2/22/2008 11:31:42 PM
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so somebody tell me whats to high?


I think that's the problem. Right now, there is no way to certainly know what is an "illegal high prize".

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16895.12 in reply to 16895.10
Date: 2/23/2008 12:00:42 AM
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so somebody tell me whats to high?
anyway i bought crap for to high and i sold crap for to high, thats just a normal thing...
if it happen to you, you learn out of it and think twice before the next betklick...
anyway if you sell a player you have to klick twice if you buy only one false klick is enough....

Go to the transfer list and you can see for yourself what is too high. The market is not very deep, but you can easily see what's selling for how much. Otherwise you end up like the previous whiner who was annoyed that he wasn't allowed to keep the $1,000,000 (one million) that were paid for his player with a wage of $2,600.

You have to be thinking twice and three times before you bid anyhow. If you don't, it is nobody's fault but yours. And no, what you claim is not a 'normal thing', I am afraid.

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16895.13 in reply to 16895.12
Date: 2/23/2008 4:10:25 AM
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what you think i do all day and night in here ^^
i check the market very often, and i found some cheaters to, still i dont know whats fair whats not.
there is 11 skills with 20 different numbers stamina with 10 you can count in xp and gameshape, age and height to. im to bad at math but maybe somebody can tell me how many combinations that is, so each combination should have a fair price, if anyone tells me he knows whats the fair price for one particular player i must think its mr.data from enterprise ;)
and still if somebody paid to much (as long as it is no cheating) he will learn out of it, its just normal that a noob makes a mistake at the market...

anyway probably its really hard for a gm atm to figure out whats an reasonable price...

i wonder what was the highest non cheating profit for an non-trained player yet?, or what you think is the highest profit a trader should be allowed to make?

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16895.14 in reply to 16895.13
Date: 2/23/2008 4:24:40 AM
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well its nice to see there are some genuinely good players trading hands at 1mil plus now... but there are a lot of regular traders fishing for 1mil plus bids on some lets say not so great players.... im interested to know if these fall into the 'overvalued bracket'

but as we discussed last month when the 2 NBBA teams made a switch at $2.5mil... if thats within the ranges i suppose we can all push the boundaries a fair bit...


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16895.15 in reply to 16895.14
Date: 2/23/2008 4:39:50 AM
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i think the 1million+ transfers aint that big prob, coz if someone has that much money made he cant be a noob for my opinion ^^

actually there is nothing in the news about this, is there a big problem with transfers at the moment? it must have a reason somehow? the seperator thing (xxxxxx, xxx xxx) was also something related to that, i think. are we trading to much and they looking for a way to limit it?


ps:question to juice, is there many transfers that needed to be adjusted?

Last edited by CitB at 2/23/2008 4:44:15 AM

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16895.16 in reply to 16895.15
Date: 2/23/2008 4:48:33 AM
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i think there is a big difference between trading and trying to take advantage of noobs that dont know or havent worked out how to value certain players.. (which you pretty much openly admit to doing) so by that definition if you are admitting putting an inflated price on someone to see if you get a bite then surely this constitutes an overinflated price...

the only time it wouldnt is if you really got a bargain and relisted for a price that was still realistic or you relist at 0 and let the market on the given sell date determine a new fair market price....




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16895.17 in reply to 16895.16
Date: 2/23/2008 6:08:28 AM
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mmh i never realized that i was looking for noobs to buy my players...
i just want to make profit to get a better team so that i can go up to first division quick...
daytrading for sure is a way to do so.
the first thing for a trader is to buy cheap, do want to limit that as well? what if i get a player for 10k which is worth 200k? you want to adjust those transfers to?
there is some other things as well which influence the price as the right time (like try that they sell saturday night or some time many players online) also sometimes people dont have much time and to avoid a long bidwar they just pay a bit more to get an player without investing hours on the market..
anyway a hard discussion on this like always just check the older daytrading threads...

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16895.18 in reply to 16895.8
Date: 2/23/2008 7:21:39 AM
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We're not going to allow an artificial imbalance in the economy.


Then you should be able to easily compare transfers with other similar players (age, best skills), or even supply an average price. It's difficult, even for someone with some experience, to know the correct price just my looking at the transfer market.

Also, if you want to secure a "fair" transfer market. Why not just give players fixed prices for any given age/stat combination? Teams could decide (or even the player could decide randomly) who he wanted to sign for. Then there would be no1 cheating any1 - rookie or veteran - how you manage your training, arena, etc would decide what players you would be able to attain.

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