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From: Kukoc

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Date: 11/24/2011 10:25:46 AM
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If there are guys that improve on regular basis. There must be guys who decline on regular basis. Decline does not start at 33 years old in real world aswell. We have seen guys being at All-Star level decline in 2 seasons to a few minutes off the bench men (with no injury).
Looking at BB, this improving and declining on random, would just ruin the game. Too much random, is sometimes just too much. We currently have a good system, with the great addition of cross-training. I think it's logical to assume, that everyone in your team get's training. That training keeps them at their current level and keeps them from declining. The guys you give individual training to will improve, if they get to use those newly acquaired skills in games, enough minutes per week.

From: JON

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Date: 11/24/2011 2:52:37 PM
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No it's not a good system. Take notes from Hattrick.
And it's not "random"

From: Kukoc

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Date: 11/24/2011 3:15:11 PM
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Your suggestion is not a good system. The current system is better. Wasn't hattrick some dumbo football manager where you have to just train one skill.

From: JON

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Date: 11/24/2011 3:44:11 PM
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Yes my suggestion is very good and realistic.
What do you mean train one skill? That's what we do here.

From: Kukoc

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Date: 11/24/2011 3:57:45 PM
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Your suggestion is bad and unrealistic. Not every player improves, even if you assign a special trainer to him. The current system is better because it's not too complicated.
Here you need to train several skills. You need to change training weekly. Have you found the training page where to change training:)
In hattrick you have only one viable skill to train (playmaking). Whoever plays hattrick anyway. Football is the best drug if you want to fall asleep really fast...

From: yodabig

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:17:41 PM
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Yes real players decline but while realistic I don't think it would encourage players to keep on playing the game when their star 18 year old Hall of Fame draftee Gred Oden keeps on injuring himself and is worse forever while the Kevin Durant they didn't draft gets better and better. (Not that you can actually train a 6'11" player to be a star SG in this game anyway.)

Think of the best player on your team right now. How would you like this message to come up next game, "Torn ACL out for 14 weeks -6 in DR, RE, ST and OD for ever"? It is realistic, just ask Brandon Roy, but would just encourage people to quit a game like this.

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From: Kukoc

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:24:06 PM
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That's why pulling the realism card does not actually work in an online game. If you want everyone in your team to improve. Use FT, ST, GS training. You even have team trainings in REB, 1vs1, JR, JS and passing. Not enough options?

From: yodabig

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:33:11 PM
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You and I both know that team training REB, 1vs1, JR and JS are not options. I am sure you have never done them because they are basically sabotaging your team. They are illusary options only ever used by new players who then quit the game when they realise how they have wasted all their opportunities to improve their team.

Last edited by yodabig at 11/24/2011 4:34:16 PM

From: JON

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:42:31 PM
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Yes it is realistic.
And the system isn't good at all when you have to play your 7'0 center @ PG if you want to improve his passing or outside defense. I'd like to see a training system implemented where playing your guys way out of position isn't necessary. It's not realistic and shouldn't be required anyways to improve those attributes
Not everything has to be 100% realistic or accurate but can we not turn this into a circus where 7'5 guys play at PG?
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From: Kukoc

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:43:38 PM
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I have btw trained REB for team. Not only one week.
What would you expect from this suggestion then? That everyone would improve on the team like they were single position trained. The guys suggested for extra training even faster. Comon. If this would be implemented, the training would be even slower than the current team training + the singled out training would be slower aswell to compensate the "team improvement". So where is the gain?

From: JON

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Date: 11/24/2011 4:47:52 PM
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I think younger players who get minutes @ PF / CENTER should get small training allocated to them, enough that you could get 4/5 pops from them in a season. Players at SG, PG, SF will not get any at all or very tiny (SF) maybe.
Right now, the only reason to even own a young player is for training that's it. Young players on your team is meaningless if you are not training.


Last edited by JON at 11/24/2011 4:50:46 PM

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