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219595.8 in reply to 219595.1
Date: 6/7/2012 8:20:02 PM
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In my opinion, fast breaks do happen, but the game engine isnt designed to allow it to happen inside of 5 seconds.
I think the only types of shots that happen inside of 5 seconds are half court prayers, tip ins, or buzzerbeaters.
eg: If you get the ball with 5 seconds left on the game clock, your team will 9/10, shoot it on the buzzer.

so its more about what constitutes a fast break - steal then shot? What if i steal the ball and take a shot 8 seconds later? Thats not a fast break in my opinion, but its probably what the game engine determines to be a 'fast break'.

But yes, i agree, there should be a few more opportunities in the game, definately following a steal, which result in quick bucket.

And as a side note, lack of fast breaks is one of the reasons why the guards have such low FG%. They tend to steal the ball more in real life.
If you take two fast break points a game(assuming the player makes the layup!), and you're only shooting 10 shots a game(including fast break shots), suddenly your shooting percentage goes up 20% for that game.


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219595.10 in reply to 219595.9
Date: 6/8/2012 2:32:12 AM
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true! Interesting!

1 second, and a few that were 4 seconds, and a few that were 6 seconds.

All after steals.

well spotted

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219595.11 in reply to 219595.10
Date: 6/8/2012 3:14:36 AM
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What I mean it ussually takes for an average NBA player to make it from 75+ feet to the hoop in less than 5 seconds....that's a true fast-break, right? If we knew where the steals were, that'd be different. But I'd like to see more fast-breaks or at least a few more fastbreak attempts. Makes the game more exciting. Usual steals are like this...........

Player A steals the ball.

15 seconds+ later...........

Player B takes a jump shot from the elbow, guarded closly by player E.........

shot missed

But what if it was a F-B?
It would've been two easy points right? When I play basketball (and everyone else) they usually when they make a wide-open steal, go straight to the basket and run hard, right????

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219595.12 in reply to 219595.11
Date: 6/8/2012 3:37:09 AM
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yer in some cases, albiet Manon has proved that in his game, there were at least a handful of occassions where the steal was followed by a score 1, 4 and 6 seconds after the steal.

And his steals were 10+ seconds into the oppositions play, so they will be at least past the halfcout line.

So yer. fast breaks do happen.

But still, not enough really.


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219595.14 in reply to 219595.13
Date: 6/8/2012 8:22:49 AM
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Steals should be rewarded more by more easy point imo. but they do happen the question is how they are seen by the ge. if defenders also have time to get back and in some way defend


Since GE has all players height etc. Being equal speed and strength. There in lies a problem with fastbreaks. Everyone runs the speed of Ty lawson. a PG won't "out race" a 7'5 Center.

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219595.16 in reply to 219595.15
Date: 6/8/2012 8:34:21 AM
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Nah, not a problem. Although speed/strength skills would be easy toss ins.

throw speed stuff on outside shooting and defenses and etc. Power on inside stuff and rebounding (reobunds come from boxing out which takes power), etc. etc. some variance of base starting speed/strength.

too complicated to think right now. worked 35 hours straight, love OT, but ugh.

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219595.18 in reply to 219595.13
Date: 6/8/2012 1:57:01 PM
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Steals should be rewarded more by more easy point imo. but they do happen the question is how they are seen by the ge. if defenders also have time to get back and in some way defend


More frequent than that, though, is that steals are rewarded by a turnover back in the other direction. There's often a stretch of match where it appears more to be volleyball than basketball.

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