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236489.8 in reply to 236489.7
Date: 3/2/2013 4:53:56 AM
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You are kidding right? I can't see the smiley face but I know this whole post must be a joke.

Slightly active managers constantly get lucky and promote. Sign up, do bugger all, come last, draft a $2,000,000 rookie, sell him and go up two divisions while having no clue what you are doing. Obviously most do not. The other thing you say is also true, the slightly active managers buy a bunch of 34 year old players with massive salaries, win their division (although sometimes go bankrupt first) then find them in a division with players that have a clue and do get slaughtered, go bankrupt finally and quit.

No you don't have the idea of buzzerbeater wrong but the idea of putting all the most active managers together in division IV.1 so only one of them can promote per season and most give up before they can promote while those in IV.64 can buy one random old guy and promote is atrocious. Then the one guy that finally gets out of IV.1 goes to III.1 where they will be stuck forever while the once a week guy goes to III.16 for another easy time. Madness.

Of course the idea is to eventually get the best managers to compete, once they are at the upperlevels. But while they are still working their way up creating an artificial log jam of the most active and passionate managers is purely negative for the game.

Come on admit it, it was a big joke right?

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236489.9 in reply to 236489.8
Date: 3/2/2013 12:37:47 PM
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No you don't have the idea of buzzerbeater wrong but the idea of putting all the most active managers together in division IV.1 so only one of them can promote per season and most give up before they can promote while those in IV.64 can buy one random old guy and promote is atrocious. Then the one guy that finally gets out of IV.1 goes to III.1 where they will be stuck forever while the once a week guy goes to III.16 for another easy time. Madness.

Of course the idea is to eventually get the best managers to compete, once they are at the upperlevels. But while they are still working their way up creating an artificial log jam of the most active and passionate managers is purely negative for the game.

Come on admit it, it was a big joke right?



well... for one, with it being organized this way...
unless there's an "odd man out" situation, a manager who logs in periodically, would not be placed into a bot league where nobody signs in period. This can be used to determine active users. You can eliminate extra leagues, which will save server space.

secondly, I haven't seen any slightly active manager get lucky and promote, but thats only looking at the league I was in, tough was in, Cometahalley, Kobey, and 5 or 6 other managers whom were around my start time, that were in d.v and active on the boards and chat.

In the Year I have been here almost, I have yet to be in a league that had any real activity at all.... THIS IS FREAKING BORING, then I have to go out of my way to type bb-mails left and right, just to have conversations and such with other managers. I have sent out 50 friend referrals to BB... Obviously, none of them have responded, and just toss it as spam mail, or maybe they tour, see the lack of active participation, and peace out. Because I know that my fantasy football league's forums, are more active than my league forums in BB have been. Think about that for a second.... Fantasy Football... where you literally sign in once a week, set your lineup, check FA, and leave. Has more activity than buzzer Beater, where you have games on tuesday, thursday and saturday, my pl games on friday, a scrimmage/cup game, where if scrimmage you need to log in in specific time frames to organize. The training on friday. You have to check in after each game and make sure your trainees got the proper minutes.

Come on, if I have to sign in 5-6-10 times a week every week for here... it'd be atleast nice to be able to talk to people while doing all this. Smack talking, talking training, talking U21 stuff, talking NT stuff, talking scouting, talking merchandise, talking arena. Talking about team philosophies. defenses, why their 2-3 doesn't work but mine does, etc. I would rather be able to do that in the league forum, which is navigateable, rather than on the main forums here, which need an overhaul.

I believe that the so called logjam of active and passionate managers to compete is a positive thing. Builds friendships, builds rivalries, makes the gameplay more fun. Scouting also would be "less of a crap shoot" if all the managers are active. because then you won't have the random teams drafting players by player # order, which is randomized per person anyways. Say you draft 12th... and you found a 5/3 A- 18 year old. At pick 12, seems like a solid guy... then oops, a non-active person takes him first because he was their player #1. and at the 1st pick overall, that's a wasted pick. Now you at 12th, are picking the 2nd guy on your list, who realistically, was a 2nd-3rd round pick caliber player anyways, unless your scouting did a great job and you found a 4/3 B- player, but wait. A team at 10 that was active, just went bot, and he was player #4 on his, but 1 2 and 3 for him, were already drafted between active people and the other bottish teams. Now you're screwed again.

This is not just a Large nation problem, I hear Wolph complaining all the time about the lack of this in Japan (a micronation

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236489.10 in reply to 236489.8
Date: 3/2/2013 12:38:29 PM
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This is not just a Large nation problem, I hear Wolph complaining all the time about the lack of this in Japan (a micronation here).

And you can't see the :-) because there wasn't one :-P

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236489.11 in reply to 236489.9
Date: 3/3/2013 4:19:57 AM
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This is exactly the problem they had in Japan I remember reading that Japan had this exact problem because all the active managers were in division II.1 and whatever half asleep noob wandered into II.2-4 won it easily.

So sorry that you are in boring leagues but that is a bit of pot luck. In Australia I know that the ABBL and all division II forums are very active. In division III or IV it is a bit of pot luck but it only takes two talkers and others will start to join in.

The other thing is to join an active and non-random private league. My PL has been very quiet this season but we have somewhere between 10-20,000 posts in total, that should be enough to satisfy anyone. Weekly ladders, MVP voting, game writeups, tipping competition, all star teams and just a mountain of arguments about anything. Don't believe me just take a look at the Australian IV.7 league forums (where several of us started).

Another excellent way to get involved is to help out with a national team. You could try with Team USA and if not there are dozens of small nations that would love some help. I know when I coached India and Bolivia I was always very keen for some helpers.