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keep dreaming nic. im taking both next season. ive been playign around with my tactics of late, especially after puzzling losses

I with ya in the getting screwed department..

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Please tell me how I lost this match, and how those coaching ratings make any sense at all. Both playing "look inside", but I used the 2-3 zone compared to him using a 3-2 zone. Makes sense that that the 2-3 zone is the better coaching tactic against in inside offense, right? Nope, not in this match.

Completely baffled by the recent changes, going back to the original implementation of game engine 3.0

Seems BB-Charles explained the theory of the ratings pretty clearly:

"So, a great offensive coaching rating means that you got the most offensively out of what you have. It has nothing to do with the quality of your assistant coach and is entirely dependent upon the tactics you submit."

To me, this means the coaching rating is a reflection of the tactics I, the manager, chose before the match. If true, then the coaching ratings from my match make little to no sense based on the definition of those tactics from the rules.

On top of this, it's frustrating enough to have the effectiveness of the inside scoring tactic to have been seemingly erased with the new engine.

Edited 7/9/2007 9:46:54 PM by brianjames

ok so i took a closer look at this game.. and i think this is very helpful by the way....

first why you lost, and then second why they got a better coaching rating... and actually these are highly related, and explain why the coaching ratings isn't doing what it was intended to do.

so.. I think you basically just got unlucky. Even though you were a better rebounding team.. they got more rebounds (i don't think that's a bug, just bad luck, but i will check), the also got more foul shots (perhaps you are a more physical team .. or maybe you were just down at the end). You did end up shooting better than they did... but the combination of fouls, turnovers and off. rebounds made up for the difference and the eaked out a win. I bet you play this game 10 times you win most of them (i will try it later tonight in our test universe and see).

so .. the reason the coaching rating of there's is (i think) because just as charles said.. they got better shots than they should have compared to their ratings. Of course this can be for two reasons.. one because of tactics.. and two because they got lucky. If they happen to get better shots than they by all means should have when looking at ratings and regardless of tactics this would cause the coaching ratings to go up... now frankly this doesn't seem like a good idea to me.... so we might need to go back to the drawing board as far as the coaching rating. maybe we run the game.. then run the game 10 more times with normal tactics and coach decides depth chart and look at the difference between the game played and what would have happened if there were no tactical changes. That would be computationally expensive though... so i dunno we will have to discuss it.

I'm sorry...i thought this may be in response to me. This is to domenico_c right?

also i took a look at the other 3 games that have been brought up....but i want to do some simulations tonight before i pass judgement on what happened. again.. many thanks for the feedback.. I at least hope that we are giving the impression of making a better game... the inside focus always wins game engine was definitely less "interesting" than this ;)

sorry yes.. that was looking at 547079, brianjames's game.