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Are game engine secrets hindering gaming experience?

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From: Dodor

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Date: 9/17/2016 12:59:34 AM
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Well, it depends on how you want to look at it. You can either see it as.... omg, this is really exciting, I have no idea how any of this works, but I can try different things and get surpised by the result every time! Not knowing anything is the best quality of the game because you have this "win the lottery" feeling every time you succeed.

Or you can look at it as... How am I supposed to do anything with this game when I have no real clue what to do, other than... higher skills - gooood, lower skills - baaaaad. How am I supposed to build a long terms strategy? How am I supposed to get the best out of my team or take advantage of my opponent's weaknesses, when I don't know how anything works.

Maybe that's the genious of the game. maybe everything gets down to... whoever has the higher total skill points sum wins, and the whole "we cannot reveal our complex secrets" policy is just there to make everyone think there's more to the game than there actually is.. And we're spending hours selecting tactics and positions as if it matters at all... haha

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I like your way of thinking. To experiment with new tactics and player builds sure sounds exciting. It's exploring and conquering of new territories, who doesn't like that?!

But does that contradict what I am saying? In my view, having more initial input will make people more comfortable with the game controls and allow them to experiment even more. To explore new ideas, you need to have knowledge of old ideas, and I think noone has any idea. Even if your experiment goes well, and you win your games, leagues or whatever, you will not be sure what the reason is. It is like the confirmation bias theory, you may think what you are seeing is due to one thing as that's what you expect, but the truth may be something else.

With more knowledge, people will be able to make more educated guesses and experiments and can finally put some logic in their theories. Also, don't forget you always have an opponent against you. What you think works may not work against everyone depending on their set-up. In other words, more information available to the wider public may just make the game more competetive and challenging.


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It is quite frustrating to see a three year project go to waste, because the assumptions were wrong. Plus with a small sample size, you cannot prove a lot, so even after a long research, it's mostly (highly educated) guessing.

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Date: 8/11/2017 5:06:59 AM
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Maybe we do not need more information about game engine being released by its developers, but rather more tools that would make it easier to learn game mechanics on our own. Of course, reading forum is useful, but still there is so much "noise" here ;p.

As an example of what I mean by "tools" - I would appreciate a lot if we just have more in-game stats. Things like - number of shots contested by a player X, FG% by opposing player while defended by X, data on shots distribution and so on.

It would be also great if we could easily download historical game and player data in .csv format. I don't mean single game, but all games over a given time period.

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Sorry for necromancy... just realized that

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Well, I think that this tool already exist, but it's not "famous" so I asume a few things:

A) The tool isn't working properly.
B) The creator doesn't want to share it for some reasons.
C) Both.

I remember use that "tool", and yeah, I put in into " " because what I remember about it is that you could see and analize a lot of NT games for some seasons ago, but you can't introduce new games (or at least I didn't now how to do it).

Its been a long time since I used that, but maybe it's time to look on it again.

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