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all that saved salary also allows you to upgrade your other positions, that was the point I was making.

It may be fools gold though. 5 IS and 16 RB on that player is probably around 10-15k more, 5 SB and 16 RB about 20-25k more. How much more salary do you need to pay to the C or SF or the guards to bridge the gap? Note that the player was paired with a 150k C in D2. That same C is averaging about 12.5 RB/36 in D1 in France now.

In D.I I'm sure you can lower the gap, have bigs with 14-15 REB and they would still do fine in my eyes.

C and PF are kind of different. At PF you will probably be ok with less than 14 (it will depend on the opponent), at C you will need more to guarantee you grab more rebounds or you're even at the position. Of course, that assumes both teams play the same type of tactics, because you will need more RB if you play outside or balanced tactics and your opponent plays inside.

There are so many NT bigs that have 15 REB around the world who dominate.

In NT games usually FG% is a bit higher than league games (when the level between the teams is quite even) so you often get around 85-90 rebound opportunities instead of up to 100-110. Yesterday the 2 top teams in my Utopia league played each other (106781333) and ended with 54 boards each

I think (for USA at least)

I'd think 11-13-15/16 for Cs and a couple of points below that for PFs may be enough depending on the league and what you're trying to do (win the league, playoffs, avoid relegation etc). In lower leagues the trade-off between rebounding and other inside skills is bigger.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/16/2019 7:32:44 AM

This whole thing was already debated in the past btw. (263135.5)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/16/2019 11:31:12 AM

Thanks for the perspective! Its always cool talking about these things.

Shikago's team (23424) had players with all atrocious skills at every position.

This match (87447477) was posted in the other thread about point margin, but Shikago holds most BB's 'recognised' team records. His $237 salary players have all skills below 1 (atrocious unbolded).

If you look at Shikago's players and games where he played all atrocious lineups of 60yo to set records, Jerunderbar's post is correct. You will also notice that steals and turnovers are not entirely a factor of a player's skill, either: you will see players with 1 OD getting steals and on the other hand players with 20 PA and 20 HA turning the ball over (and not just because of offensive fouls or 3 second violations).

Last edited by Lemonshine at 6/17/2019 1:00:23 PM