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199504.80 in reply to 199504.79
Date: 11/24/2011 5:12:27 PM
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I think inside box and one can stop a LI. I have two examples from this season, when I played a LP vs. a 2-3 or inside box and one.

2-3
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Inside box and one
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Against the 2-3 zone, my team had slightly less in inside scoring vs their inside defense. However, I scored 120 points. My team also shot about 58% from the court.
Against the inside box and one, my team had much better inside scoring vs their inside defense. I only scored 83 points that game. My opponent had a 4k C starting and a 27k PF. Somehow they were able to stop my 58k and 12k C and PF respectively.

Inside Bow and One was put into the game not too long ago. There is probably not much information about it, but I think it is defiantly a strong inside defense that was meant to be another option to stop LI offenses.

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199504.81 in reply to 199504.80
Date: 11/24/2011 5:19:02 PM
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I would also like to add that someone was talking earlier about inside players not being trained in inside defense enough. And guards not being trained well. If that is the case then maybe you should train your own players instead of complaining that there are not enough players the way you want them.

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199504.82 in reply to 199504.80
Date: 11/25/2011 4:49:23 AM
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i have had some difficulties while playing look inside, and my oponent uses box-out defence.
take a look at these least season final games:

at first one, my multiskilled beasty pf totally dominated. 50 EFFiciency in 35mins.
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/39313290/boxscore.aspx)

at second one, he was stopped with box-out, and he was mediocre at the best. 23 EFFiciency only in 36mins.
(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/39313291/boxscore.aspx)

both games he had strong game shape. 2nd game his DMI was even higher than first one. Also in the second one i had home court advantage....which didnt helped me much. Seems like defence pretty much helped. he tooked 24 shots and made 17 versus 2-3 zone and he only tooked 10 shots and made 6 versus box-out.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 11/25/2011 4:55:57 AM

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199504.83 in reply to 199504.82
Date: 11/25/2011 5:28:32 AM
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To all four posters above me: difference between D.IV and D.I (or even D.II) is HUGE. In D.IV, 3-2 works against Motion and 2-3 works against LI. In D.I or D.II it doesn't most of the time. So while I understand you, you have to understand things are different on higher level of playing because players have more secondaries and teams are more balanced.

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199504.84 in reply to 199504.83
Date: 11/25/2011 6:21:38 AM
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...because players have more secondaries and teams are more balanced


Honestly i think the opposite is the case. In relative terms the secondairies are probably higher in the lower divisions, compared to the main skills.

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199504.85 in reply to 199504.84
Date: 11/25/2011 6:25:21 AM
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Yes, in relative. So in D.IV you find:

JS 11, JR9
OD 11, HA 9
DR 10, PA 8

In D.I you can find:

JS 16, JR 13
OD 17, HA 13
DR 15, PA 13

First player has relatively higher secondaries, but if I were a D.IV team, I would play 3-2 against him. And if I was a D.I team, I wouldn't play 3-2 against second guy.

From: minde

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199504.86 in reply to 199504.85
Date: 11/25/2011 6:34:21 AM
No Good News
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So, you say that primary skills for players are those which are on the left column and secondaries on right? I thought that secondaries are, for example, JR for C and RE for guard..

From: Koperboy

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199504.87 in reply to 199504.86
Date: 11/25/2011 6:41:18 AM
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I should explain myself better...yes, secondaries are PA for C and IS for a PG...but secondary abilities are IMO also those who aren't "main" abilities for a certain position; so PG's main abilities are OD and PA and "secondary" HA and DR. Secondary because they are "supportive" skills. I'll make myself clearer next time.

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199504.88 in reply to 199504.83
Date: 11/25/2011 8:21:22 AM
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2-3 doesnt work even in league V, thats a fact.
and in lower diviosions players have relatively higher secondaries, like my pf, lowest outside skill is lvl 6, and highest inside skill 12. And in higher divisions ull find lets say outside skills for centers bellow 7, but inside 17-19.

Last edited by Gajus Julijus Cezaris at 11/25/2011 8:23:32 AM

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199504.89 in reply to 199504.83
Date: 11/25/2011 12:14:26 PM
Infested Warriors
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To all four posters above me: difference between D.IV and D.I (or even D.II) is HUGE. In D.IV, 3-2 works against Motion and 2-3 works against LI. In D.I or D.II it doesn't most of the time. So while I understand you, you have to understand things are different on higher level of playing because players have more secondaries and teams are more balanced.


Emmm... I'm in D.I and i have won two games using 2-3 zone.
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You must understand that not all teams can play a succesfull Zone and so it not all teams can successfully play every offensive.

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199504.90 in reply to 199504.89
Date: 11/25/2011 1:22:03 PM
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It's curious, that even if Salyers has a low offensive movement he scored like he wanted.

You only won 2 games?


Show us the games u lost with it.

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