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251520.800 in reply to 251520.795
Date: 11/4/2020 12:29:43 PM
Vilkiukai
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
429429
Second Team:
Vilkiukai II
Stats are inflated due to 3-2 zone, C and PG position salary monsters. But overall teams is competetive. Whcih you can say looking at league standings. Other teams, you lost against are seeds 2,3 and 5, so first two sindicated around same level teams, cannot disregard as much inferior ones.

Your missmatches are good offensively, but shot distribution is way below what at average you would want to. Toomuch bad shots from SG, SF, toofew from PF, C positions, where you have advantage. Your passing rating is very decent, but i think it does not reflect the skills of players.

I think the problem is offensively.

I used to play only LI most of my bb career, back then you needed to find not only obvious advantages like driving and IS, but also other ones to succeed with lower salaries than oponents. Players either shoot or pass the ball in the offense. I would think your SG and SF, also the front PF and C might have low passing. One of the most efficient shots for guards are passed driving layups, if not counting tip ins and dunks (which mostly come due to a pass also). Bigs tend to pass the ball to small, pg does also, but bigs passing really helps offense flow. Also SG and SF if both bellow lvl 9-8 really sucks, because they tend to shuck shots.

Quich tip: Low post requires higher overall passing of the team to get good shot distribution, as does all slow offenses. LI is better to run if having lower passes. (i think the passing was issue with 2nd game vs team bernery).

3rd game-> at home and higher enthusiasm. You slightly stronger teams, you loose most of these.
1st game->again very bad shot distribution.

If i would play against you, i would place best outside defender, especially when you inside team on your PG and hope for bad shot distribution, probably other teams did so.

Defensively seems 3-2 quite decent, dont think if you should use 1v1. I dont think this is the issue.



Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 11/4/2020 12:32:32 PM

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251520.802 in reply to 251520.795
Date: 11/16/2020 6:04:49 AM
Virtus Portici
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
453453
IMHO :
1) it is necessary to increase the FT, either with general training or with training court
2) stop playing TIE and go normal!

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251520.803 in reply to 251520.802
Date: 11/26/2020 7:22:59 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
11
(113066525)

luckily its just friendly game lol

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251520.804 in reply to 251520.803
Date: 12/2/2020 8:42:20 AM
Rajdersi
II.2
Overall Posts Rated:
4343
Second Team:
Rajdersi II
Hi,
Any idea for such big loss (113110202)?
Stamina-rather not
Rebounding-maybe?
BO -maybe?

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251520.805 in reply to 251520.804
Date: 12/4/2020 6:41:20 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
15061506
Differences in 3FG are at least suspicious. Outside defense team grades looks normal, but despite of that his guards scored much more efficient than yours. It's even more strange, when you consider your opponent played LI.

My guess is that your base offense lead to this very bad distribution of the shots - maybe it should be changed before next game.



Last edited by Siwy at 12/4/2020 6:41:45 AM

Leniwy, stary, wyliniały kocur. Czasem jeszcze zerknie na polskie tłumaczenia.
From: Cobra Kai

To: Siwy
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251520.806 in reply to 251520.805
Date: 12/6/2020 10:39:38 AM
Cobra Kai
III.10
Overall Posts Rated:
418418
Second Team:
Wu Tang Clan
(113155533)

Hi guys, I learned the hard way how inside isolation works. its a play off match I had better enthusiasm and more complete roster and far better ratings

The opponent did something "stupid" by changing some matchups without even knowing my skills and what I would play which luckily for him turned on his favor. I beat this guy with 30 points playing TIE in my homecourt

I was expecting that SF PF and C would take more shots but it wasnt the case . My pg whom I thought he would pass more did take some unreasonable shots , most likely because his defender was also crap but my PG didnt have enough JS or DR to overtake him. So what i learned from this game is that inside iso does not focus mainly on a good matchup but if a player believes he can take his defender he will try to score no matter how unreasonable it may seem to us outside observers

Any other suggestions ?!

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251520.809 in reply to 251520.807
Date: 12/8/2020 10:41:37 AM
Cobra Kai
III.10
Overall Posts Rated:
418418
Second Team:
Wu Tang Clan
Oh i see you dont know match about inside iso. It does not work that way (as described in the manual I mean), my PG got a ton of jumpers, and his IS is crap (3).

Driving is also a huge factor and my PG has DR 7. The only explanation is that the guy guarding my PG has low OD but my JS JR was also not that good (7 & 8) so my pg thought that he can play "isolation" even though my team had much much better options. I have played this system many times and its the first time it dissapoints me so much

Inside isolation takes priority on driving and then IS, but it takes alot of open jumpers and 3's if it finds the opportunity to do so

Look at my secondary PG his percentages are amazing (4-5 , 3-3 which explains opponent's low OD) , if I I have put him the match would be totally different but I chose a passing pg in order to secure easy SF PF C shots with his high passing, which obviously did not work

Anyway thanks for your reply

Last edited by Cobra Kai at 12/8/2020 10:44:40 AM

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251520.810 in reply to 251520.807
Date: 12/8/2020 3:06:46 PM
Cobra Kai
III.10
Overall Posts Rated:
418418
Second Team:
Wu Tang Clan
another scenario could be this : his coach adapted his defense to an inside one and then my guards were open but missed badly. Still his one inside defender was crap so even with a double team I should have scored more. anyway thanks again

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