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Speaking of changes, wanna talk about the awful current training system?

I really don't because this is not reversible and I'm pretty sure any change or proposal about training will lead to endless discussions. It's also a bit harder to implement than scheduling routines.

hrudey did have a sensible proposal years ago that was widely discussed and was quite smart. Now I'm bummed because while I was searching for the thread I found out that both Manon and hrudey are bots.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/18/2020 11:50:41 AM

I found out that both Manon and hrudey are bots

what happened there? some other GM banned them?

Also, yes, I did ban them. You don't stop being a GM. Never. Ever. We ban you. Mafia style.

I knew you'd do the right thing and send them off in style!

As a new user I agree that the pace needs to be sped up.

I started on May 20 (so exactly three months) and I’ve had four games against non-bots. I’m very very unlikely to promote as one of the sides that demoted last season are streets ahead of the other three of us, so I’ll probably be in the same situation again next season. If another demoted side comes into my league again next season who are also way better than us and I can’t promote it would be 9 months with about 12 games against humans and some additional playoff games.

I play another management game for another sport (cricket - FTP), so I understand that it’s going to take patience and I am planning to stay in it for the long haul, but I don’t think all new users will be in the same boat and can see other new users quitting after being sick of 6 months of easy wins against bots.

I am 46. I play BB for more than 10 years and still love and hate it. Besides some minor tactics and economy adjustments, the game is still very addictive to me.
Although, I believe it is too complicated to have some motivation for the beginners. The game is not easy at first sight, they won't win matches very often, the budget, arena and player skills will increase very slowly, and this is not compatible with most new game players. The world is a much faster place now
BB needs a faster, simpler, more dynamic and attractive version for beginners and younger players. These new generations have a lot of distractions, they won't bother with games where they can't evolve at a fast pace. The App won't help, but a better mobile responsive website is essential.
I can't think in a better solution than to have 2 versions of BB, because you will never please both sides of users. One for the slow pace old school fans. Another much simpler and faster for the newcomers. Sort of BBRookie, where you can experiment a simpler version of BBVet, and join us when you are ready to try a new challenge.
Two different approaches, two different markets, two different marketing strategies.

If money is an issue - and i believe it is! - i'd try some kind of turnaround.

1st Establish what are the necessary improvements to mantain actual users and call and mantain new users to the game.
2nd Calculate a budget for all tasks
3rd Raise funds and (i) pay for the job(s) or (ii) get BB volunteers

How do we raise funds? Well, we are 13k. Let's suppose 20% are willing to put 1$ a month for improving the game. That's 31.200$ / year. Is that enough to assure its future?