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but what I can say is that it's going to be a Utopia style kind of league, created as a new, 99th country.

This is from Marins post, where he definitely say, that Utopia will be only a country added on this server(probably with restrictions which I mentioned in previous post). Actually, I was also more in favor of idea about new server, but I suppose they decided that it will cost more money, and because of that they decided to go with 99th country... Anyway, I am happy with any decision which will help this game rise, and I believe that this is one of them:)

Until we get the full details from Marin, there isnt much we can talk about, regarding the 99th country itself.

I would like to think that the BB staff will primarily take into consideration, all the possible implications their decision may cause.

For instance, the "instant flooding" of some hundreds of new teams, straight up, could be devastating for the players market.
A market that is severely poor, the last couple of seasons, already.

Anyways, in anticipation of the surprises, Congrats BB, i like the way you handled both the voting results and the opinions expressed in this thread.

Problem here is that the (totally hypothetical) approximative numbers were:
30% for second teams in micronations
15% for an Utopia country within BB
15% for an Utopia server
40% against the second team

Thats what you get, when you start a poll asking the wrong questions.

Step 1 would have been to start a poll asking: Second team yes or no.

Step 2: If step one is "yes", start a poll asking the following:

do you want the second team to play:
1) in a country of your choice
2) in a new country

Result would have been second teams in real nations. Somehow you have chosen to implement the solution with the least amount of people supporting it. Great success!

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The mess that the developer is wasting time for is beyond [expletive]. It does not fix the micronation issue (thats why I proposed the second team in the first place) and it will make only half the money as you could have made with second teams in real nations. Peter principle at its best.

So your way, is the worst possible solution one could think of. It makes absolutely no sense, will be just another lame country where the first teams to sign up will stick in DIV I for ages, with the other being the waterboys to run the treadmill.

Last edited by Knecht at 2/15/2014 9:01:48 AM

Step 1 would have been to start a poll asking: Second team yes or no.

Step 2: If step one is "yes", start a poll asking the following:

do you want the second team to play:
1) in a country of your choice
2) in a new country

Result would have been second teams in real nations.

You seem pretty certain about the hypothetical outcome.
I wouldn't be so sure.
The course of the conversation in this thread, strongly indicates that it is very possible, people that were initially opposed to the second team implimentation in the first poll, would mainly vote for 99th country, instead of having second teams in their league.

I have to agree with you on this matter, BBs should have made another pool: Utopia vs normal countries, but I have to disagree with you about the final outcome of that pool. I have read this whole thread, and saw a lot of people who saying that they like second team idea no matter where it is gonna be build, also a lot of people who saying that they dont want foreigners in their country(I was one of them), or they would like Utopia only, and smaller number of people who were saying that Utopia is fail, and it isnt solving any problem(like you). So as I see this, BBs actually listened majority of players, and only the time can tell, who is right on this matter...

I totally agree with knecht on this. there should be a poll for utopia vs. second country. If the community votes for utopia than its fine, if they vote against it..so be it. :?

as long as there is no poll it is needles to discuss what the outcome could be. the reactions I read were more in favour of a second country but that is just a few people.