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By the way this thread is going, I am left with the impression that people expect players to come out and block 5 shots a game with regularity, which is not going to happen.

no a bad shoot blocker will give his opponent easy oppurtunitys to score because he jump up to a fake, a good shot blocker will affect many shoots he doesn't block because the people have to throw above his hand and this will lead to more missed shot ... That what i expect ;)

In real i saw a lot of player who try to block everythink and give the opponent so much free point, to get a solid block stats - so that good blocking don't correlate much with the amount of blocks. because good shot blocking laso means, to know when to block ...

And if one block is average genious for a player, and no affected shots, you won't pay then money for it kozlo.

The real problem is the distribution. There is very little correlation between the shot blocking skill and the number of blocks. If somebody with no skill in shot blocking is blocking at 0.5 - 1.0 bpg -- those with the skill are blocking only a fraction higher -- then the skill is practical worthless.

I agree that distribution is a problem. I said this a couple of posts up.

I don't think this necessarily makes the skill worthless for centers, since shot blocking on guards doesn't help you as much when the opponent is playing an inside tactic.

Guards make more blocks then center with smaller skill, so why it isn't helping you?

Even with inside tactic i expect an nealry similiar amount of blcoked shots.

Guards make more blocks then center with smaller skill, so why it isn't helping you?

Even with inside tactic i expect an nealry similiar amount of blcoked shots.

Because the opponent's guards generally will take less shots when he plays an inside tactic, which renders the SB skill on guards relatively less useful.

but they still take pretty much shots, when you don't use only pass guards.

But this makes shot blocking still an guard skill, because, guards blocks more in normal focus and outside focus with a smaller sb skill, and for that it is handled wrong from the system.

I'll try to explain in another way...if i play a game with a center with respectable(7) ID or with a center with sensational(12) ID there will be a great diffrence that can be seen in the game and the change between the skill level is pnly 5...but if i play with a center with colossal(19) SB or with a center with respectable(7) SB with 12 skill level change(more then twice) i can't see it in the game,and they did the same blocks in a game most of the time and that it why SB should not be a skill on it's on becouse it has in the best case a vary minor effect while other skills like ID that can be trained in the same way are having a major effect on the game.

You cant ignore the facts i gave here and more then 85 masseges there is a problem that need to be solved find your way to solve it buy do it i dont need my player to do 5 blocks per game becouse he has a high SB but i want to see the high SB effect the game as any other skill and not just in the money the player takes home but also on the court.

Either that, or you add other tertiary skills like stealing or clutch skill and make it known that these skills are of far less importance. In all fairness, skills like driving and handling are only secondary skills and no one complains about them. (I recall a player on the TL with legendary driving and handling to go along with average guard skills who was only putting up about a 6.5 or 7.0 rating.)

lot of driving ain't useless, but players with just one skill are useless ;)

In the german Bundesliga, the best scoring player all have great driving and driving cost enarly no salary and the training improves secondaries pretty good as well. So the balance is much better ... The top german team, makes their guards superior in just training driving, could you do the same with Shotblocking?

And thats SB is part of id is the reason many people train it in expection that it help the players, to get better.

OD but OD is much more complicated to train then driving, cost more salary etc. So the balance is pretty good.

I would train both skill, when i am train two positions ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/15/2009 9:11:00 AM

OD but OD is much more complicated to train then driving, cost more salary etc. So the balance is pretty good.

I would train both skill, when i am train two positions ;)

Shot blocking pops quite fast as well.