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72142.83 in reply to 72142.81
Date: 2/25/2009 6:18:02 AM
Le Cotiche
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wow, talk about overreacting... we don't even know what they mean with "fair to countries of different sizes"


Last edited by mark_lenders at 2/25/2009 6:18:13 AM

From: Astragoth

To: Coco
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72142.85 in reply to 72142.84
Date: 2/25/2009 6:32:50 AM
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i know what you mean. what is an active user? Basketball isnt a big sport in the uk. we might have 520 coaches loging in on a regular basis, this doesnt mean they are really active. I am sure you know what I mean. And yes, Japan has it even harder than us.

I know the thread you made a link too. I have read it. And the clear outcome might have been clear to you but it isnt that clear. if the smaller countries have had such an easy ride, why do they perform so badly in the BBB? Anyway. we have another thread for that :)

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72142.86 in reply to 72142.77
Date: 2/25/2009 6:34:10 AM
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I'll highlight the most amusing part of this reply.

Japan, or any country, needs 15 managers prepared to one position train a domestic prospect alongside an international prospect to have a competitive u21 in two seasons time, an NT in four.


I think in my election speech when trying to once gain the England U21 managers role I outlined exactly this! Its nice to see that my words didnt fall directly on deaf ears...

but are you suggesting all managers directly competing with one another sit cosily around a table and divide out the fruits of our traning labour?!! HA

As Champ the example I show is to educate where possible how managers in the chasing pack and aspiring 1st division managers can better their decisions to help close the gap. These are merely opinions stemmed from my experience and done so in confidence that i dont need to keep information I believe gives me an advantage from anyone. Ive done this now for those that want to listen both inside and outside of Japan and will continue to do so.

What I wont do is as you suggest set an example that weakens my team uneccessarily. If your aspirations this season are to stabilize a position in the EBBL and not to challenge for honors then its 'nice for you' to be a community spokesman and lead the way admirably is single position training until you can compete at the business end of the table.

As for the swings and roundabouts quip; am I supposed to never aim higher than domestic success... if i opt to cut salaries and overshoot I can with bad luck/injuries lose my crown for what ($100k a week?!) at some point I will want to make a run at the BB3 and in 3 seasons I save $4mil odd which buys me 1 player (or more seats!) that at present i cant see how would improve my team considerably.

There is an angle and take on every new decision announced and my retort is an immediate reaction to how I initally read into how it will effect me (and in turn many more like me in smaller nations)

If you have a counter response, no problem at all but at least let it be one that makes sense.

Do you think I enjoy being in the position I am in.. Id rather be in an Asian Superleague or perhaps transfer across to my country of domicile... you better not hope for the 2nd as you will have a mighty bare trophy cabinet from here on in.

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72142.87 in reply to 72142.81
Date: 2/25/2009 6:35:15 AM
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Get to the EBBL, then slag it off. You are some way from doing that.

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72142.88 in reply to 72142.87
Date: 2/25/2009 6:37:20 AM
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Get to the EBBL, then slag it off. You are some way from doing that.


Transfer me to the EBBL I'm english i only live in Japan... please please.

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72142.89 in reply to 72142.87
Date: 2/25/2009 6:38:11 AM
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i make a bet with you. my guards are going to be super players and in 3-4 seasons time they will challnge for MVP in the EBBL. I set up a plan to make the most from training and yes I am willingly and on purpose still miles away from the EBBL...

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72142.90 in reply to 72142.89
Date: 2/25/2009 6:43:35 AM
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yeah, right.

And another guard-training team is just what England needs. Let's see how they match up to Snyder and Shields in II.1 first.
Anyway, this is getting off topic.

From: Kukoc

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72142.91 in reply to 72142.81
Date: 2/25/2009 6:50:53 AM
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You do understand that if you play in Div2 and they play in Div4 your arena revenue is a lot higher if you lose to them then you pay less salarys aswell meaning you overall profit is a lot higher than theirs.

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72142.92 in reply to 72142.86
Date: 2/25/2009 6:55:23 AM
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I'm glad you got the reference.
I think coco made the point clear, you have had the advantage in BB3 to this point. This measure will redress that. You are yet to accept that you have had a financial advantage in BB3. Really, a man of your talents should've won the thing by now ;-)
What else it does is unclear at this stage.

By the way, I'm not dismissing Astra's point that the motivational boost caused by increased competition outweighs the financial advantage that you've received. Difficult to quantify, though.

I don't care about the position you are in, we're talking about whether this measure improves the game, not your position in it.

Go on, ask me whether I sympathize :-p

From: Shoei

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72142.93 in reply to 72142.90
Date: 2/25/2009 6:59:28 AM
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people! just chill!

i understand the concern we all have, but the contingency plan of how the foreign players playing in a country is still not clearly given to us.

some of us have thought about the effects, some talk about the aspects. but its all going to the fact it deals with how we are going to manage our own team.

i felt as much as people wants to air their side others counter in the sense of not the issue but what was just brought to the table by someone. how can we disect something we dont clearly know.

i believe the bb's will release more info to us, for now take it easy. i fear we wont be hearing much of advance news or plans in the future if we end up arguing more.

its still season 10 and we have 2 more seasons, its a big thing so i expect we to be guided properly in this change.

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