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187744.84 in reply to 187744.71
Date: 7/4/2011 2:54:43 PM
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I could call you dumb for only having 6 players in your roster with one listed, doesn't make me correct, unless I can prove it though, right?


As a relatively new team I felt I couldn't compete with a puny arena up in my country's D.I. I opted to tank and rebuild, but in retrospect maybe I shouldn't have promoted here in the first place. I do regret it but I don't think you should consider it dumb, no.

Larry Bird is a hall of famer, when it comes to ball, every single person on this planet would believe his words over yours every day of the week.


That's a terrible assertion. It's simply not true in this case, not when he's clearly incorrect.

Come back with something to support your arguement, then I might start listening to you again.

How does a fadeaway jump shot compare to a free throw? Give some examples...


I don't understand where you're stuck on this. Take a look at shooting fundamentals? You square your body, you compute your trajectory, you get the ball on your fingertips, you release and follow through. It's muscle memory. If you are an elite shooter, you can achieve the optimal trajectory and ball rotation time after time on any shot you take.

Basic shooting fundamentals apply to both jump shots and free throws. They're similar. You're arguing they're "completely different". I'd like to know why you feel that way. The main difference, for what I can gather, is that with a free throw you bend your knees and propel yourself upwards to gain momentum/strength and on a jump shot, you jump and gain momentum/strength that way. The similarities are the basic principles and fundamentals, the difference is uh, not much? Maybe you can explain it.

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187744.85 in reply to 187744.2
Date: 7/4/2011 3:32:40 PM
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Lets take this guy for example (7095293) He probably is the worse FT shooter in the game. He now has more then 0/1000 FT


You should tell him to try the underhanded technique. I heard it works wonders.

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187744.86 in reply to 187744.84
Date: 7/4/2011 3:57:41 PM
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Basic shooting fundamentals apply to both jump shots and free throws. They're similar. You're arguing they're "completely different". I'd like to know why you feel that way. The main difference, for what I can gather, is that with a free throw you bend your knees and propel yourself upwards to gain momentum/strength and on a jump shot, you jump and gain momentum/strength that way. The similarities are the basic principles and fundamentals, the difference is uh, not much? Maybe you can explain it.



I'll try and give it a shot. I can't really find a video or the place where I've seen it, but it was something like "Shooting Fundamentals with Isaiah Thomas". He was not explaining they are completely different(you do use your hands in both of them), however, he did say that they are significantly different. And I know I've seen guys that make a ton of jump shots and miss the easy FTs. The motivation behind this what he was saying was that you do not shoot FTs in a rhythm and you have to actually stop your whole momentum and focus. MJ was also sustaining the same thing.

We are, however, wandering away from the topic of this thread...

Everything is fairly clear and simple, this is a basketball manager. You want a good defensive team, train OD, ID, you want offense go for 1 on 1 and JS and JR. Why should you be able to defend a three pointer if you never trained OD, or if you have atrocious OD, well, you shouldn't. Why should you be able to be a leading rebounder if you never trained rebounding... the list can go on.



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187744.87 in reply to 187744.86
Date: 7/4/2011 4:01:00 PM
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Although free throws and jump shots may not be the same, in real life no one would miss 100 free throws in a row or more even if they never played basketball in their life.

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Date: 7/4/2011 4:22:39 PM
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Glad this isn't real life then.

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187744.89 in reply to 187744.88
Date: 7/4/2011 4:35:58 PM
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Must be The Big Aristotle (Shaq for all who don't know that) haha

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187744.90 in reply to 187744.89
Date: 7/4/2011 5:12:00 PM
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I'm just saying, don't like the free throw percentage? Train free throw then.

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187744.91 in reply to 187744.90
Date: 7/5/2011 5:31:47 AM
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Hey there, I know the discussion is stuck on several points now, but here are the observations I can make with my team:


Name % Skill
A 0,805 12
B 0,806 11
C 0,794 10
D 0,778 7
E 0,688 7
F 0,629 5
G 0,764 5
H 0,571 4

I only chose players that made more than 20 FT in this season, and there was no FT training this season either. we can see that the percentages and skills are correlating, although not perfectly (but that would make things boring anyway...)

But the main point I want to state is that player H has a decent percentage with skill level 4, which is quickly achieved.

So: Come on people bitching about "unrealistic" FT-percentages! You can solve this problem quickly by training FT, probably for just one week or two to have your often cited 30% mark!!

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187744.92 in reply to 187744.82
Date: 7/5/2011 12:29:54 PM
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Why should I train FT if I have a team of decent FT shooters and only one weak link (thats the case for most teams dragging a trainee with them)? Increasing the FT skill by 4 or 5 levels will take me 6-10 weeks and result in only a couple of points scored...


Just make sure the bad shooter doesn't get fouled, then. Or don't buy/train players who don't have decent free throw skill. Or take the hit and train FTs. Really, you're dealing with a problem with a myriad of solutions - just because they're ones you don't prefer doesn't mean that they're not perfectly adequate for the game as a whole.

You might as well ask the city manager or whatever the title would be to build you a new road to your destination because the existing one goes by a building you don't like.


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187744.93 in reply to 187744.92
Date: 7/5/2011 3:56:20 PM
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City manager - that was a good one :)

You are right, all roads lead to rome - why even bother thinking about some alternatives...

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187744.94 in reply to 187744.93
Date: 7/5/2011 10:46:19 PM
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i think all those 3pt shooter have practice FT somewhere, sometime during the season

i think all professional players have practice FT therefore they are not hitting 0.000%

and its good for the game to not award those who never practice

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