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155261.85 in reply to 155261.81
Date: 10/15/2010 8:39:43 AM
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It's not about doing one or the other. Tho different methods resulting in converging results would be most satisfying for everyone, dont you think? This is really a key project, more important than the simulation of ratings, in my view.

Edit: I can provide you data for a capped player in 1.5 seasons or so. Nothing for the moment.

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But it only does an ok job of estimating allstar players. And even then, sometimes there are weird results. Of course, this is almost certainly because most of the data points come from allstar potential players, but that's another story. Also, weird players who capped with a lot of outside d or inside shot would really help.
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How do the weird all-star players look like? What does their profiel suggest?

The player that I mentioned before will be allstar SF, that is either going to cap with OD or IS. (I wonder if he could cap as an SF with IS as it is neutral to salary).

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Tho different methods resulting in converging results would be most satisfying for everyone, dont you think? This is really a key project, more important than the simulation of ratings, in my view.


I am not sure what you mean here. What are the different methods? How do these methods work in the absence of data?

Edit: I can provide you data for a capped player in 1.5 seasons or so. Nothing for the moment.


I am looking forward to it.

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How do the weird all-star players look like? What does their profiel suggest?


My post above was not referring to weird players but rather weird results from the model (like no contribution from outside d). However, others pointed to some flaws in the model and the lack of data. So until I have a better data set and a better model, any findings are bound to be a bit weird (and highly inaccurate).

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I was assuming without knowing that you would model capping in a different way. If you come to the same conclusions, that would be reassuring. Especially, if there is not a lot of data (or data with limited heterogeneity).

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Date: 10/22/2010 6:23:26 AM
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I'm trying work out whether my Star potential Guard has capped. He has 81 skills including an 11,12 & 13 among guard skills.

Would that suggest he has capped and the data be sent to you?
He's dropping out of the training rotation anyway, so let me know whether you think you can use the data.

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Date: 10/22/2010 9:30:18 AM
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First: thanks for getting in touch with me.

Now, in terms of your question, I really don't know. The only way I can for sure know if players have capped is by looking at their training history, age and height and making a guess (ie: 5 weeks inside shot training for a 21 year old, 7 foot player without a pop means he is capped).

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Date: 10/22/2010 5:15:16 PM
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I'm trying work out whether my Star potential Guard has capped. He has 81 skills including an 11,12 & 13 among guard skills.

I've got a star potential guard with 90 skills (didn't count stamina and free throws). Guard skills are 1x9, 2x11, 2x12, 1x13. In my eyes he has developed yet pretty much with the same speed than my perennial allstar potential guard who pretty much has the same skill set.

I have no real data, just my impression through what I remember about their training and development.

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Date: 10/22/2010 5:21:18 PM
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Perhaps my guy's lower guard skills will pop, his higher ones sure aren't!!!

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Date: 10/22/2010 5:59:05 PM
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Perhaps my guy's lower guard skills will pop, his higher ones sure aren't!!!

If I picked the right player, your guy is also already somewhat old... IIRC I have now trained my (23yo) guard once in OD after popping to tremendous. Will probably get another two or three OD training sessions pretty soon. Will let you know if he shows some signs of popping.

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