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From: GM-Dyd

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254079.851 in reply to 254079.849
Date: 2/17/2014 5:38:08 AM
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Well, I gotta say that BB is doing a great job in my opinion, the overtaxation was in my opinion an excelent idea, and his having great success avoiding the tanking and then a super team, and the GDP avoiding play inside the whole season with no changes.
And now, I really think they are going the right way with this utopia server. I think the best thing BB could give me this moment is a "server reset". I know the game well already, and want an opurtunity to start a game at the same level as the other users...and if they give me that, it would be awsome!



No. This is a wrong idea. Important matches are played still with inside tactics, or better, inside tactics are still more efficient than perimetral, despite GDP. I have doubts about GDP balancement (probably is stronger for some kinds of tactic than others) but GDP still doesn't represent solution, because what BB needs is to have two teams, with similar salary amount, team one well builded from inner tactics and team two for perimetral, which are at same level. Not a "predictor" for trying to equilibrate.
Be clear, at least it's a new thing.
OT, imho, despite i'm one of the 0,001% who's paying, it's a good thing.

Coming back on topic.
ok, we drops 600 users from today's bot batch than yesterday's userlevel, and we lost 1% of users in balance (we started last monday with 30k) after 2 weeks of stable userbase. (just to report it).

for the 2nd team, focus is "to have" more supporters, or am i wrong?
Has BB-Marin (and who suggested or helped him to take decision) that more supporter (it's simply a numerical issue) should came from more populed nations?
And, after the "big increase" when Supporterland (after Marin's announce, Utopia became a little obsolete) will be open, may drop in about 1/2 season due of competition or, the "other face of the medal",only brave remain in div X trying to promote, and other one will stop using the 2nd team option?
And, another consideration: will supporter price remain the same when you introduce 2nd teams?




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254079.854 in reply to 254079.837
Date: 2/17/2014 4:02:46 PM
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First, I'm ridiculously excited that there will be a second team feature!

If it is implemented as a Utopia, 99th country, I really hope all teams enter at DIV or DV (depending on number of teams in the new country). Otherwise, if some teams enter in DI, some in DII, others in DIII, it'll be unfair to those starting in the lower divisions. I think it's okay that there are 100% bot teams in DI until human teams promote into DI. One nice feature of this Utopia is that it's a 'reset', and it'll be cool competing against experienced managers, all starting from scratch.


I am truly excited for this as well, and agree with Timbo4's ideas about starting us all in the same Division.
I would have been happy with either Utopia or not. Being in Utopia, and the not yet mentioned rule differences, will be a cause for some new and creative team strategies relative to our existing teams. That will be fun.
Looking forward to it!

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Date: 2/19/2014 12:42:36 PM
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I created a new thread in the Suggestions forum to discuss possible ideas/considerations for the new Utopian/99th Country league. I decided to start a new thread since this one was more of a debate of the idea of new teams, and I wanted to preserve all of the ideas of the Utopian league in one place.

Here's a link to the Suggestions thread:

(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/community/forum/read.aspx?thr...)

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254079.856 in reply to 254079.840
Date: 2/22/2014 3:34:56 PM
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knetch, you loved the implementation of democracy, but now you mad because your option lost?


I never asked for "democracy", I asked for common sense and smart decisions.

A poll is not a vote and thus the democracy point is completely useless and makes no sense at all. Even if this was a "democratic" vote it would be the worst decision to put an option that was supported by 15% of all voters in first place.

In this case the MAIN goal that should have been achieved with this feature was ditched completely and that makes me furious because its just another failure of the people in charge. Mark my words, utopia will have less than 100 users. Great success, anyone who wanted to play in such a sucker league would have been very welcome to play in Austria, as our league is beyond boring.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
From: Elmacca

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254079.857 in reply to 254079.852
Date: 2/25/2014 9:02:23 AM
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Hey parrot, I'm going to kick your tailfeathers in Utopia. Beak it.

Last edited by Elmacca at 2/25/2014 9:02:37 AM

From: norax

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254079.858 in reply to 254079.856
Date: 2/25/2014 2:26:23 PM
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I agree entirely with you.

utopia? no, thanks. I want to play in a REAL country, a country that means something to me.

I will wait. I'm sure that sooner or later i will be able to create a second team in a real country and then probably most of utopian teams will go to the bin.




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254079.860 in reply to 254079.858
Date: 2/26/2014 2:42:10 PM
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How does the fact that the country is made for the purpose of housing the second teams make a difference and make it "not matter" as much? The country's still going to be competitive, with different divisions, a tournament and a draft, so I really don't see what the problem is. The new country eliminates complications of foreigners taking over micronations and everything along those lines. As a new manager, I really like this idea and it'll definitely make me consider getting supporter.

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