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From: Stratos

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Date: 12/13/2008 12:06:06 PM
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Yeah But i will be supporter again soon

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Date: 12/17/2008 6:50:11 AM
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Rebounding
C/PF:
Trains RB @ 1.75 weeks (~2.5 weeks for a 24 year old)
Trains ID @ 7-8 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks



Someone is complety sure about this ?


I did a study on rebounding that I posted here: (381.266) and here: (381.299)

However, training speeds have slowed a bit since then, and my trainees are much older now and I really couldn't tell you if that information is still accurate. My guess is that the average popping time of ~2.5 weeks for a 24yo is pretty close to accurate.

It should also be noted that all four of my trainees in that study were 6'11" (211 cm) or 7'0" (213cm).

If you read through my results, you should note that I completely disagree with the 7-8 week time-frame for pops in IS and ID. I'd assume 10 weeks, as my results were during a period of accelerated training, and had only one pop in a secondary skill in 8 weeks.

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Date: 12/17/2008 10:45:52 AM
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Thank you very much for the information!

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Date: 12/19/2008 11:55:21 AM
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Outside Shooting
SG:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks

With level 7 trainer:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 8-9 weeks
Trains HN @ 8-9 weeks

PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?



Hi guys thanks for all the effort in giving the info of how training works and trying to keep it updated.

Here's my question...
In the Outside Shooting training there is a option to train SG and SF, is it comparable to PG/SG? Is it not worthwhile? Why is there no info on that specific training?

Thanks in advance.

edit: typos and bad english... lol

Last edited by RFlagzzz at 12/19/2008 11:56:35 AM

From: Plutoni
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Date: 12/21/2008 9:42:22 AM
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Passing
PG/SG

20 years old

Tr. lvl 5
(6)Prolazan ↑10.10 (+2 passing TEAM)
(7)Dobar ↑24.10
(8)Odličan ↑14.11

Tr. lvl 6
(9)Impresivan ↑ 05.12
(10Iizvanredan ↑ 19.12

Last edited by Plutoni at 12/21/2008 9:45:14 AM

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Date: 12/21/2008 1:49:55 PM
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Hey, good stuff. Can you just confirm that he receives full training every week? And based on what I'm seeing, is this correct:

6 --> 7 (2 weeks)
7 --> 8 (3 weeks)
8 --> 9 (3 weeks)
9 --> 10 (2 weeks)

From: LA-zajino

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Date: 12/21/2008 2:48:48 PM
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but can we have a thread also for older players

my backup pg who plays 48 and more minutes every week on a pg/sg pressure training havent got a pop for 6 weeks already

oh his 22 years old,


it took 3 weeks to my NT player to pop up in OD, he is 23years old. i was told his owner wanted to train PG/SG training pressure...
21 year old guy have popped in 2 weeks in OD...

i believe training is not same for same players..i mean for ex. two 22years old guys with same hight making same minutes per wees could train in long term different way..that is just my opinion

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From: Calum

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Date: 12/22/2008 2:04:26 PM
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I think there is a random element in every training update. In fact, im sure there is. This could well be the reason.

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Date: 12/22/2008 2:40:34 PM
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There isn't any randomness in skill pop training except for skill drops and team training (stamina/free trows / game shape).

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Date: 12/22/2008 3:03:57 PM
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To be honest mate. Im just thinking about a few weeks ago when BB-Charles (or some BB), after the training update issue, said that the results may be slightly different than the first update (when it was re-run) becasue a small random factor.

There is a small chance i misread it though. And that may be only Team training that i missed.

Last edited by Calum at 12/22/2008 3:04:46 PM

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Date: 12/22/2008 3:16:54 PM
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You're right, he (or another BB, dunno as well) did write that in the first place with the note that he would check out the training code. Later he corrected that statement that he was wrong.

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