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From: ZyZla

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Date: 1/14/2010 2:04:51 PM
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And for example if I do not have any good 3pt shooter why I always have to try shoot so many times from 3pt line? Some time I would prefer to try to score from 2pt.

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Date: 1/29/2010 4:34:35 PM
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Personally I would agree with option to preset something only for substituting players. That makes any sense for this type of game and it would not be unnecesarily complicated.

If you say to coach that he has substitute centre if he is losing or keep him there if he is winning. So you can better ballance power of your team / played minutes.

Also would be interresting to have the option for score which have player himself. If you set him there to play 30 pts, but unfortunately is well defended, coach would substitute him for someone else and you could use him more in other match.

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:04:59 PM
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But all those means more changes to the Game Engine...

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Date: 1/29/2010 5:34:45 PM
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I dont think so, if any player score or defend something would be the same, there would be only option to switch him if something goes wrong.

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Date: 1/30/2010 4:41:04 PM
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hmm...and who decides if and when something goes wrong? seems quite complicated.

I would like to see us coaches have more influence in the outcome of a match and not let the game engine make more decisions for us. When you say "if something goes wrong", the question is where is the limit? and then again why? and what if I would like to keep a player playing despite of him being well guarded? He could still use his passing skills...

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Date: 1/30/2010 5:12:09 PM
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The point is that it has not to be so easy to ballance minutes, because if it would depend on time how long he is there, there would be no bariers for training anymore. So score of team or player himself seems to me like well unknow dependent.

I think that if player score 4 points per 1st quarter, it doesnt seems that he is using his potential if he play on the position for desired focus, so I would like to see replace him right away and put there only if the other needs a break to take a breath.
If you dont need that option, noone force you to use it.

It could work even on the other way, If you pick there a player which has for that match unexpectetly good score, coach would substitute him for the one, better one which is waiting on the bench. Why? To use players effectively, if you play league and cup, it could be great to have an option to mix them like that.

Last edited by aigidios at 1/30/2010 5:13:11 PM

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Date: 1/30/2010 10:09:24 PM
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the point is that you still be able to look out the opponent in defense ;)

From: zyler

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Date: 2/4/2010 9:17:10 PM
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I would like to see us coaches have more influence in the outcome of a match


just wanted to throw this out there (i have not read every single post so sorry if it has already been said)

you do realise that your not the coach right? your the manager.

the coach is the same for every team and it is the coach that makes the tactical changes within the match not you the manager.

as the manager you give the coach a general tactic that you want your team to play , the coach then changes this on the court when he see's its not working.

personally i think the current tactic system is fine (i would like a few more tactics though lol)

remember your playing a management game not a coaching sim.

From: Coach Ash

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Date: 2/6/2010 6:28:41 PM
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the coach is the same for every team and it is the coach that makes the tactical changes within the match not you the manager.

as the manager you give the coach a general tactic that you want your team to play , the coach then changes this on the court when he see's its not working.


Since when do managers mix up in line up decisions and tactical set up before the game? And how come the manager has to decide what is practiced? Do you see what I mean? I think BB is a great simulation mixing managing and coaching responsibilities together, so therefore your statement "this is just a manager simulation" is not valid.

I also never suggested to make in-game decisions. I suggested to create a tool which would allow us to have the game engine modify certain tactical set ups in certain situations BEFORE THE GAME. I won't repeat now everything, so you would have to read through some posts to understand what I asked for.






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Date: 2/19/2010 7:32:23 PM
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and what about something like you can choose the difference of responsability every single player should take...for example now you can choose only the tactics, R&G,LI,motion,low post and others so with a perimetral tactics P,G and SF will take more shots and with an inside tactic it is the contrary at least if tou have good level of passing skill...now i would like to decide that my guard must have the higher involvment in the offense, my playmaker have to take only a few shots and so on...not only setting the tactics and hope my guard shoot more than my playmaker or the small forward or vice versa...did i explain this well? Do you think is a possible implementation?i think it is very usefull and reduce a little the random of the game

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Date: 2/20/2010 3:08:15 AM
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your player will take the best shots they could get, i think this implementation should stay and not be sacrified to a implementation wwhere a solid shooters pass the Ball if he is open to a guy who try to finish against three defenders.

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