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but not the content of it,

You can see the title which got cut off because it was too long. That is content.

it was added to a discussion about if a message was sent or not,

No it wasn't. I sent Perpete a message so that he could amend what he wrote, so that I wouldn't report him. This message was not spoken of anywhere. Instead of replying to me, like any normal user or not replying at all which was in his right, he posted part of my message on public forums.

I'm 100% sure I would have got a fine for something like this, but please Foto clarify beyond doubt that this is allowed (ie. not in the terms you put it, but in the terms I put it knowing exactly what was written). Thank you.

Note that if you confirm everything Perpete did here is fine it, I will also take messages in the mail and publish it on forums. Since Perpete also had defamatory post and instead of taking back what he said he published part of a private conversation, I assume I can take the liberty of posting messages between me and him, or between me and other members of staff, without necessarily having to reproduce them exactly or giving context provided nothing is being said about staff decisions.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/30/2016 1:55:55 PM

Interesting. I'm used to it being completely forbidden. Thanks for clarifying.

It's your opinion, not mine, although I wouldn't have written that. If he had posted the content of the message or it had a different and more explicit title I would agree with you. My bad that I thought it was an older message, though.
An I repeat, if he had written the content of the message I would have been the first person asking him to remove it, since private conversations can't be released unless both users agree.

Interesting. I'm used to it being completely forbidden. Thanks for clarifying.

It's more a case of common sense from my point of view. If I send you my mobile phone or my personal data it's clear that you can't post that. If we are discussing a fine I could have applied to you or we are talking about a cheating case or a staff decision, you can't post that either, since forum rules don't allow that.

And of course, if the title of a bb-mail is "User XXX is a cheater", it can't be posted either.

The thing is though that many users complain over different things in the game and if nothing is done there is more complaints. But as a change comes to address something a storm of complaints come because of changes being made.
I'm not sure how they should do to keep everyone happy. Do you even think it's possible?

Couple things need to happen.
First, BB needs to determine what sort of game they want. Suggestion below to incorporate the user base.
Second, BB needs to replace their current policies/structure of decision-making and responding to queries. Clearly, something is broken there, and something needs to be changed. Too much pressure is placed on GMs, when it doesn't seem like they have full say/need full buy-in to the changes.
Third, there should be clear communication when there will be changes to either of the above in either the game manual/announcements (too many important things are getting lost in the forums).

BB could develop a survey to see what the users are more inclined to support (ie. how long until new users understand the game - to frame how complex to make the game, how long until new users are competitive - to determine how quick to make training/feasibility of trading, etc.). This survey can help frame the first point, of developing the core goals which determine how the game ought to be developed. If they have the survey filled out by thousands of users, the negativity of two or three posters pushing for changes that are contrary to those core goals can be easily dismissed. Suggestions of changes that meet those goals can be discussed constructively, obviously with potential disagreement as to what the results of changes could be; that's why #2 will be important.

Interesting. I'm used to it being completely forbidden. Thanks for clarifying.

It's more a case of common sense from my point of view. If I send you my mobile phone or my personal data it's clear that you can't post that. If we are discussing a fine I could have applied to you or we are talking about a cheating case or a staff decision, you can't post that either, since forum rules don't allow that.

And of course, if the title of a bb-mail is "User XXX is a cheater", it can't be posted either.

In other words.... "Quod licet jovi, non licet bovi."

lol man, did you just call us cows?

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/30/2016 3:12:19 PM

Iovi you mean?
No, if he publishes the content of a bb-mail or any other communication, and something of the topics I've mentioned above are on it, I would have the same opinion and ask for a removal or delete it myself.

The problem with surveys is that unless the questions need only a yes/no, they are complicated to evaluate. It's something to think about though.

Iovi you mean?

Par Toutatis et Bélénos, the conceit is strong with this one. Non classical Latin started using Juppiter, Jovis, Jovi instead of Iuppiter, Iovis, Iovi in the early middle ages. As the only Latin still used today (by ze church) has forms with the J and the expression is used in judicial (see that J appearing again instead of the I, same story, iustitia to justitia) jargon, why would you want to correct him?
L:)

Last edited by Lemonshine at 12/30/2016 4:22:46 PM

As always you pick out one part of his post and let everyone think you're actually making a worthwhile reply. How about addressing the rest of his post.