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Date: 12/19/2008 11:55:21 AM
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Outside Shooting
SG:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks

With level 7 trainer:
Trains JR @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-6 weeks
Trains DV @ 8-9 weeks
Trains HN @ 8-9 weeks

PG/SG:
Trains JR @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 4-5 weeks
Trains DV @ ?
Trains HN @ ?



Hi guys thanks for all the effort in giving the info of how training works and trying to keep it updated.

Here's my question...
In the Outside Shooting training there is a option to train SG and SF, is it comparable to PG/SG? Is it not worthwhile? Why is there no info on that specific training?

Thanks in advance.

edit: typos and bad english... lol

Last edited by RFlagzzz at 12/19/2008 11:56:35 AM

From: Plutoni
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Date: 12/21/2008 9:42:22 AM
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Passing
PG/SG

20 years old

Tr. lvl 5
(6)Prolazan ↑10.10 (+2 passing TEAM)
(7)Dobar ↑24.10
(8)Odličan ↑14.11

Tr. lvl 6
(9)Impresivan ↑ 05.12
(10Iizvanredan ↑ 19.12

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Date: 12/21/2008 1:49:55 PM
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Hey, good stuff. Can you just confirm that he receives full training every week? And based on what I'm seeing, is this correct:

6 --> 7 (2 weeks)
7 --> 8 (3 weeks)
8 --> 9 (3 weeks)
9 --> 10 (2 weeks)

From: LA-zajino

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Date: 12/21/2008 2:48:48 PM
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but can we have a thread also for older players

my backup pg who plays 48 and more minutes every week on a pg/sg pressure training havent got a pop for 6 weeks already

oh his 22 years old,


it took 3 weeks to my NT player to pop up in OD, he is 23years old. i was told his owner wanted to train PG/SG training pressure...
21 year old guy have popped in 2 weeks in OD...

i believe training is not same for same players..i mean for ex. two 22years old guys with same hight making same minutes per wees could train in long term different way..that is just my opinion

1 BBB, 20 Leagues, 10 Tournaments, 3 Europe Titles (SVK), 2 World Bronzes (SVK), 2 Europe Bronzes (SVK,FRA), 42 Seasons NT coaching
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Date: 12/22/2008 2:04:26 PM
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I think there is a random element in every training update. In fact, im sure there is. This could well be the reason.

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Date: 12/22/2008 2:40:34 PM
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There isn't any randomness in skill pop training except for skill drops and team training (stamina/free trows / game shape).

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Date: 12/22/2008 3:03:57 PM
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To be honest mate. Im just thinking about a few weeks ago when BB-Charles (or some BB), after the training update issue, said that the results may be slightly different than the first update (when it was re-run) becasue a small random factor.

There is a small chance i misread it though. And that may be only Team training that i missed.

Last edited by Calum at 12/22/2008 3:04:46 PM

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Date: 12/22/2008 3:16:54 PM
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You're right, he (or another BB, dunno as well) did write that in the first place with the note that he would check out the training code. Later he corrected that statement that he was wrong.

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Date: 12/22/2008 3:18:32 PM
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It was BB-Forrest but later he edited the post explaining that only stamina had the random factor.

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cheers for putting me right guys

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Date: 12/26/2008 2:22:04 PM
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One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains JS @ 3-4 weeks


I have some more data now! This data backs up the above quoted time, plus sort of proves that it is quicker for 18/19 years old):

Level 5 trainer, 1 on 1 training of guards (PG/SG)

Player A = 21 y/o, 6'4"
Week 1 (full training) = JS to 12
Week 2 (46 minutes) = HN to 8, DV to 9
Week 3 (full training) = no pops
Week 4 (full training) = DV to 10
Week 5 (full training) = JS to 13, HN to 9

Therefore, JS in 3 weeks, DV in 2 weeks, HN in 3 weeks

Player B = 20 y/o, 6'0"
Week 1 (full training) = no pops
Week 2 (full training) = HN to 9, DV to 10, JS to 6
Week 3 (full training) = no pops
Week 4 (full training) = no pops
Week 5 (full training) = HN to 10, DV to 11, JS to 7

Therefore, JS, DV, and HN in 3 weeks

Unfortunately those are the only 2 who I've trained well/would help on this board. I have a national teamer who is starting to hit his soft cap, so he is training slower. And my 18 year old isn't receiving full training, although here are his stats in case someone is trying to figure out how less than full training is affecting players:

Player C = 18 y/o, 6'1"
Week 1 (full training) = DV to 4
Week 2 (46 min) = HN to 8, JS to 2
Week 3 (40 min) = no pops
Week 4 (40 min) = DV to 5
Week 5 (31 min) = HN to 9

So HN and DV both went up in 3 weeks without full training...

Comments, complaints, inquiries? Love to hear them..

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