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100172.87 in reply to 100172.86
Date: 8/10/2009 12:52:24 AM
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Players are transfer listed for three days, not three minutes.


"The problem with the transfer system now is that you have to spend 30 minutes to win a bid war in addition to being on at whatever random time the auction is said to expire. This doesn't fit most peoples lifestyles, people who realize work, family, freinds, social life, real basketball etc. are all more important."

If this is true, then whether you win or lose an auction is not important. There will be other players and other auctions.

The timing of the auction is not random, by the way. I'll let your very active mind figure that out, though.



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100172.88 in reply to 100172.86
Date: 8/10/2009 4:51:21 AM
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Seriously I don't think many people are cheating. Do you know of any accounts of people cheating, if so report it.


i do it sometimes ;)

Why are you so worried about cheating? I don't see anyone cheating.


this week it was so far 115 people who get caught, and i am pretty sure that they was weeks with more caught cheaters.
Additionally there are some people, who try to trick a bit like giving their friend a advance when quitting with less risk they might become braver.

Buyouts wouldn't change the fact that the admins don't want to spend all day watching the market.


the dadmins don't watch the market everyday, we make it the normal user. Even if the cheater bids in the last second, the transfer is visible for at least 3 minutes for other players and they are always people searching the transfer market and they report if they see prices who are to high. Then you find chewater through league mates checking their rivals, within three days you could see the skill for their listed players, and coulb be alarmed when they pay a high sum for it.

With a buyout you could make that in 3s and the players won't be on the market, so no other interest find this player, no league match watch this transaction and no one bookmarked him to buy him also. So the cheating protecting of this game doesn't work anymore, and this system are the normal user and the cheating report, and no automatic systems(which only are an assistance when they exist but i don't believe it).


The problem with the transfer system now is that you have to spend 30 minutes to win a bid war in addition to being on at whatever random time the auction is said to expire


seriously, if you bid very high bid on the beginning you don't need 30 minutes to get him ;) This is like your bid out, only that you had to wait till the auction end and doesn't have a guarantee, but i could say you this works in over 95% of the cases.

Otherwise 90% of players are not participating in most auctions


to stay with the buyout, with this system only one player participate in the auction ;)

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100172.89 in reply to 100172.88
Date: 8/10/2009 6:21:40 AM
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I'm suggesting optional buyouts. People would only pick the optional buyout option if they want liquidity. In a market where values are more transparent buyouts would work. WIth the lack of transparency on player value ATM I can see some concerns of people manipulating and not being detected, as you suggested 150 folks got caught cheating last week or something like that.

Where did you get that data? Were those people caught multi-accounting or just overpaying a friend??

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100172.90 in reply to 100172.89
Date: 8/10/2009 6:40:13 AM
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Ith the lack of transparency on player value ATM I can see some concerns of people manipulating and not being detected, as you suggested 150 folks got caught cheating last week or something like that.

Where did you get that data? Were those people caught multi-accounting or just overpaying a friend??


into the tools section there is a categorie, report cheaters there you have stats about banned cheaters of this week. Additional stats for what they got banned aren't there, but for overpaying are often just fines to regulate prices.

People would only pick the optional buyout option if they want liquidity. In a market where values are more transparent


but how you make it, i am not going to view sold players. This would make the transferlist more in transparent if you see buyouts 3 days without beeing able to buy them when they would be still on list. If you make it on a extra page, nobody would be looking.

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100172.91 in reply to 100172.90
Date: 8/10/2009 2:16:09 PM
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why are you all still arguing a point that juice a GM already said wont be happening?

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100172.92 in reply to 100172.91
Date: 8/10/2009 4:34:10 PM
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Ego.

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100172.93 in reply to 100172.91
Date: 8/10/2009 7:39:49 PM
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From: prettyinpink:
why are you all still arguing a point that juice a GM already said wont be happening?

because a GM is not a BB, but I also think this exact idea has no future and very little support.

MisterSan, let this one go. I'm sure you can come up with some other ideas. My experience is that if I bid approximately 90% of what I think the player is worth* I get him for that price almost every time. When I start out making the minimum bid and only raising minumum, I tend to end up without the player or paying more than he is worth, regretting that I didn't place a decent first bid. That way less people bookmark him in the search of bargain players, reducing the chance that daytraders buy that exact reinforcement I so desperately need and have used weeks to find (or will use weeks to find another like him)

*There are seldom TPE's on the ones I need, or they are gravely wrong in my opinion, since I have a lot of criterias including; minimum levels in almost all skills (all my players have some OD), relative FG% according to league strength, experience at least respectable if over 21, my gutfeeling, and a nice appearance, among others.