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What's the point? Where is the challenge in that way?
Most of the communitty wont even value a title earned this way
Now it isnt a question of ligit or not it simpley against the game spirit
And the sport spirit, the whole point is to try to be competetive within
The budget limitiation (plus or minus ) , not to explode and vanish.

We are all brave and willing to take the challenge of b3 but with even budget
Thats the whole point. Now you can certainley strength your squad with raising
The budget a little but what you are doing is suicide

Plus 1 to you.

I wont be exploding and vanishing, Ive been around for 22 odd seasons and sacrificed lots to train up 3 SFs.

If you want to put a suggestion into the suggestion thread that an upper limit on salaries be introduced, do so but meanwhile I will play within the rules.

Where is the line, is it okay for teams to have a million dollar roster and lose money or is the moral high ground 1.2 mill?

The over extension tax, the time taken to restore gameshapes for players after being brought & interest on debt, are all mechanisms that are already in the game that helps prevent buy ups.

I know that you dont see it, but I spent much of last season making a profit against teams that were losing money yet managed to finish the season 3 or so games ahead of the rest

The only differences to my team since the middle of last season are; Riviera out (due to dropping skills) replaced by Pichon (like for like) and Lie, Ott & Palmeri all out and replaced with 3 x 200 K players.

Game is a managerial one and I dare say that there would be several of the other 32 teams who will be running with over 1.2 mill in player salaries

To be honest I had no expectation of winning the ABBL last season, my aim was to continue to train my 3 SFs and avoid relegation. Some how I ended the season 3 games ahead.

Where would the sport be in winning the same ABBL trophy 5 or 6 seasons in a row which I probably could have done as my SFs were all still improving and what impact would an impending long reign by myself in Australia have had on the other ABBL Managers?


Some other really great posts in this thread, love the one on culture





Last edited by Sid Vicious at 9/5/2014 8:55:17 PM

Mloty Staguard and Dyonisos have proven that it is possible to win B3 even against huge salaries. I won't bet automatically for Sid on this one to be honest.

I absolutely agree.

Ive tried to put myself in a position where I am a real chance of winning, but anything including injuries can happen in this game

Well, I appreciate your opinion, and the manner you expressed it. My point is, that with the over-extension tax, this tactic has been severely penalized. Should BBs go further, possibly with a hard cap? Certainly debatable :)

I would also like to support Sid's national argument, which possibly went unnoticed. I do think it's better for, in this case Australian community, to have a manager bursting for a B3 title, rather than holding a crown in Australia for a long period of time.

Clearly you need to sell up to appease the buza community and buy up again after the cup final

Clearly you need to sell up to appease the buza community and buy up again after the cup final

Who by coincidence I am playing you in (plus 1)

it's nice that the hate has gone global.

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Starting to think of selling Ryder or Williams off part way through next season and trying to mount a campaign for next seasons B3 as well , just to prove to a few people that my approach is actually semi sustainable, when undertaken in short bursts

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 9/5/2014 10:39:10 PM

I would also like to support Sid's national argument, which possibly went unnoticed. I do think it's better for, in this case Australian community, to have a manager bursting for a B3 title, rather than holding a crown in Australia for a long period of time.

This has certainly been bad for India. We've had two teams who successively tanked for many seasons, built up 20 million+ and then bought salary efficient players. How is that any different from spending a lot of money in one season and why should that be penalized as opposed to tanking for 10 seasons?

Different ways of playing as there are in the NBA and different choices. Don't be so quick to judge.

this thread is going way off topic mate...
this debate of the 'right' way to manage is never ending.wouldnt it be better to discuss the B3 games,something this thread was originally created for

this thread is going way off topic mate...
this debate of the 'right' way to manage is never ending.wouldnt it be better to discuss the B3 games,something this thread was originally created for

Okay and thankyou for refocusing me.

Ive had a quick look at the first eight teams who comprise the light blue quarter of the draw.

Please understand that I have added the players salaries up via a calculator so it is possible that keyboard entry mistakes could have occurred and also that teams salaries are not necessarily an accurate indication as to how good a team is.

Injuries and purchase can still occur in the next 4 days.

Also I havent studied recent form, players gameshapes or likely team enthusiam levels

Penarol BC (106884) Approximate weekly players salaries $818,176 (2 key players currently listed for sale)
Team is from Uruguay - Started in season 7 and has been to the B3 twice before - 1st time in final 32
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KK Zvezda je zivot (99907) Approximate weekly players salaries $1,134,807
Team is from Srbija - Started in season 7 and has been to the B3 5 times before - twice finishing in final 16

Harley Davidson (42896) Approximate weekly players salaries $795,545
Team is from Mexico - Started in season 4 and has been to the B3 18 times before -best finish final 4
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Ljubljana Pigs (114121) Approximate weekly players salaries $845,351
Team is from Slovenija - Started in season 7 and has been to the B3 3 times before- best finish, just missed the round of 32 despite having 7 wins


Talamasca (95952) Approximate weekly players salaries $889,759
Team is from Chile - Started in season 3 and has been to the B3 once before - final 16
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El Redutable (59987) Approximate weekly players salaries $809,863
Team is from Argentina - Started in season 4 and has been to the B3 once before - final 32

Boston Celtics (26862) Approximate weekly players salaries $800,357
Team is from Italia -Started in season 1 and has been to the B3 12 times before - best finish 4 times has made the final 4
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hopelessly addicted (38913) Approximate weekly players salaries $1,537,939
Team is from Australia - Started in season 6- has never been to the B3 before







Last edited by Sid Vicious at 9/8/2014 6:52:19 PM

Ive had a quick look at the eight teams who comprise the green quarter of the draw.

Please understand that I have added the players salaries up via a calculator so it is possible that keyboard entry mistakes could have occurred and also that teams salaries are not necessarily an accurate indication as to how good a team is.

Injuries and purchase can still occur in the next 3 days.

Also I havent studied recent form, players gameshapes or likely team enthusiam levels.


Atsalakotoi B.C. (27693) Approximate weekly players salaries $667,237
Team is from Hellas , Started in season 2, has reached the B3 6 times before with a best performance of final 8
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Bisamberg Torpedos (41888) Approximate weekly players salaries $830,579
Team is from Osterreich, started in season 4, has reached the B3 3 times before, best performance final 16

Pszczyna Team (33517) Approximate weekly players salaries $1,067,904
Team is from Canada, Started in Season 11, has reached the B3 2 times before, best performance final 32
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trenchtown (58643) Approximate weekly players salaries $1,114,625
Team is from Slovensko, Started in season 4, First trip to B3

Lalkers Sofia (45176) Approximate weekly players salaries $947,648
Team is from Bulgaria, Started in Season 12, Has reached B3 once before and made final 16
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Vottem Cowboys (37519) , Approximate weekly players salaries $696,544
Team is from Belgium, Started in season 5, Has reached B3 15 time previously, best performance has reached final 4 on 3 occassions


Młoty Stargard (162788), Approximate weekly players salaries $939,034
Team is from Polska , Started in Season 9, Has reached B3 5 times previously, Best performance won B3 in season 25
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Atgrubnagiai (39602), Approximate weekly players salaries $1,000,008
Team is from Lietuva, Started in season 3, Has not reached B3 previously

Last edited by Sid Vicious at 9/8/2014 7:04:13 PM