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Ok, I´ll try again with "follow strickly...." if you say that the blowout will happen too with that order.

Thank you.

it is a well-known bug, unfortunatly. Iìm sorry for you, I hope Charles & co. can solve this bug quickly !

hey yo i m pissed off as **** my pg went 46 min as backup whats wrong, dam

i probably been drunken, maybe i did choose an false formation, sorry for that one.

100% sure I set my team to play man to man and in normal team effort, and I end up playing 3-2 and take it easy : (8484302)

A game I should dominate even with my subs and I loose ...

In a match(8664410) my Backup SG played 3 minutes in PF position.
Why? I had a both Backups PF and Reserves PF assigned. Why play my Backup SG [who I needed to get his minutes as SG] as PF then? Why? There is no sense in that. And what is BB doing to solve this problems? How am I gonna run a legitimate training program if game engine keeps disobeying my orders?

And before someone tells me that those 3 minutes are really not that much big of a deal, let me just say that this is NOT the first time things like this happends. It's just that I'm writing about it for the first time:/
I set my orders very carefully and ON TIME and for what? For this? This is NOT cool, BB. Not cool:/

P.S.
I don't really think this matter, but anyway, for those who think it does, I played "Depth Chart until 4th Q."

P.S.
I don't really think this matter, but anyway, for those who think it does, I played "Depth Chart until 4th Q."

I obviously matters, in case it is a bug with one of the coach instructions.

For the sake of having some order in the bug reports, I'd like to ask everyone who has had this problem to report it in the following format:

MatchID
Coach Instructions
Attitude
Name/Position of the Original Starting Player(s) and the ones they were replaced by.

Last edited by GM-kozlodoev at 1/3/2009 5:34:59 PM

Hi Charles,

In relation with this bug I would like to know your opinion about the "Depth Chart until 4th". Could you explain what is the main utility of this coach instruction?

I always thought it should allow you to play with "bad players" most of the match, and then let "the good ones" enter the match at the last quarter.

But with this bug, it seems impossible to do that. In my case, every time I put a bad player as the starter (i.e. a young player I want to train) and a really good player as reserve, the order is reversed from the beginning (so the good player become a starter).

From my point of view, it looks like this coach instruction is working on the opposite sense (so more similar to "let the coach decide" than "follow strictly my orders"). I don´t know how exactly these instructions work, but this bug seem to be related to a bad understanding of this terms.

In my case, the problem does not seem related to the fact of sending the orders in the last second.

We can get more reports about this bug from the big spanish community if you want, by opening an official thread about this if you want.

Regards, and thanks for the effort.

Maybe I'm wrong, but I think there are 2 kind of problems. One maybe comes as you say with lat time submissions, but another one I think that comes with changes of this season or anyway with a bad interpretation of substitutions directives.

I say this because in all my friendlies of this season "bad players" set as starting ones were used as backups or reserves when they have someone better after them. I think that if I set "Strictly follow deep chart" or "Depth chart chart until 4th", even incapable players has to start the match as I choose, especially in friendlies where I have no economical income.

In all this friendly matches there are starting players that where not the ones selected:
(10306354)
(10313220)
(10325449)

Anyway, this season I'm winning most of the friendly matches I'm playing... :S

Thanks.

Last edited by Mastro TJ Bruschetta at 1/10/2009 10:27:19 AM

Use the suck player as first and second option. Put your sub to third option and follow depth chart until 4-th works well. Only thing you have to do is choose a suitable tactic for your stamina. Usually my first or second team dude (which ever needs minutes) get his 10 mins at the third option spot.

Thanks for your help, but in the 2nd match linked I've done like you are saying and the starting palyer was wrong anyway. :(

Note that I'm not talking abut a player that plays a few minute because of stamina or fauls (I think the in those cases is part of the simulation), I'm talking about players selected as 2nd or 3rd option that starts the game with "S".

I think my case is a problem of misunderstood or ignored substitutions orders.