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From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/18/2020 11:54:30 AM
V.A.W.T.
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It would be nice to hide these information until AFTER all the competitive games (finals, relegation) have been played for the season... Some of these player still are in competitive games for the remainder of the week. The probability of the opponent seeing this is very low but still...!

From: Fwinns
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Date: 2/18/2020 4:42:25 PM
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Well once again a great job by Kozlik the great who refuses to edit his post to hide information that could be used against the player owners. And I only asked to hide the information for ONE WEEK! What's the point of publishing the name of the owners and players?

To all Lithuanian managers and Lithuanian players owners, I hope you'll learn something from this.

PS: I just notified all the owners of players on that list.

Last edited by Fwinns at 2/18/2020 5:04:02 PM

From: Kritulys

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Date: 2/19/2020 2:01:22 AM
Krituliai
III.14
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Kritulio Urėdija
Who the fuck cares lmao.

Oh no! People will know that it's a fucking good player, that you paid a shitload of money for xD.

Get a life, nerd

From: kozlik4

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Date: 2/19/2020 3:15:15 AM
KS Goldena
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1. I did nothing wrong showing SS4, SS6, SS10
2. Would be easier for your opponent to find that he has never played/trained on C than this information on Lithuanian forum.
3a. You are the most responsible for his training. It's your shame:-) I think It's good to see for people how not to train. Actually, I should have even showed his skills...as prevention..
3b.I and our scouts were convincing you to other training. Then you could refuse polite (like many did), but you did it very impolite. Why you demand kindness from me now?
4. You bought this player only to prejudice Lithuania U-21. You are asking for a fovor, now?:D Your cheek has no boundaries.

From: impero

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Date: 2/19/2020 5:52:46 AM
M.L.S. REICH
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As nelinktu labai prie to, kad zaidejas savas ar ne. Nors dalele tiesos tame yra, bet ji labai menka.
Priezastis kodel as neperku, tai kad nenoriu izsiimti nuolatiniu pajamu generavimu, kas automatiskai itakos mano laika praleidziamas zaidime. Nes susiperkant geriausius, pinigai greitai baigsis, o efektas truks trumpai.
As koncentruojuosi i pasyvu modeli, kai esu uzsitikrines finansines puse, turiu maksimalia infrastruktura skautinimo tasku esu prikaupes ne vienai ir ne dviem naujoku birzom. Treneriai taip pat. Bet zaidejai tik savi, nes tai pigiau, o po 10 sezonu juo jau pacius man teks kazkaip islaikyti arba, zinoma, parduoti.
Mano tikslais yra ilgalaikeje perspektyvoje islikti tarp tu, kurie ugdo zaidejus. Nors nevisada turiu ka ukdyti, taciau visada esu pasirenges kazka perimti is kitu, jei matau kad verta.

From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:05:31 AM
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1. Showing SS4, SS6 shows that he's a mono skill player without secondaries. So my opponent can put a mono skill player against him and not worry about inside threats
2. He has been playing PF/C for the past half season. But I guess you're to proud to see that
3. I was polite the first time. And the second time. Third time? Why would I be polite 3 times with somebody that don't listen?
3b. Not publishing any information is asking to be kind? Don't you dare select him for the NT, I would do anything I could to not be kind =) (only applies to you as a NT coach)
4. I did it to help MY U21 team in ONE game. And how is it a favor to NOT give information to competitors? You could easily have given the information WITHOUT revealing the names and owners. YOU chose to do it like that, which is against the NT coach rules btw

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:17:46 AM
Vilkiukai
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Your arguments unjustified. Any manager looking at that player performance vs matchups, especially the ones playing in your league and the ones who have had chance to test it out, would manage to determine it is monoskill.

I think you just looking for some thread to hook on to innitiate argument fight lol, thats pathetic.

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:22:46 AM
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I'm not looking for any argument, I was just asking for my player skills not to be in the open like that. And there is a very simple solution for that: just don't publish the names! But it seems it's too much to ask

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:30:44 AM
Vilkiukai
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Ofcouse it could be done better, i mean the list. But dont you think you are overreacting toomuch? The way it is listed now is lets say inconclusive. Ofcource if it would have been skills, atleast one main skill lets say 18 IS on guard or something like that, that would really be toomuch. I dont like Kozlik either, but in this case i dont see why so much noise for that little, especially having in mind extremely low chances seeing this list at all.

Hiding names, i think it is his decision. And it might have been an influence for you arguing with him before, so maybe it is just a matter of principle to him.

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 2/19/2020 10:32:50 AM

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:41:42 AM
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So much noise is only one forum post! And I'm not the only one on that list, so I needed them to know. No it probably doesn't change anything, but what if it did? That's how Kozlik works, he does something and doesn't even ask for forgiveness afterwards. Even you admit that it's wrong. If he removes the names from the list, does it give you (lithuanian NT fans) any less information? Does it give the owner any less information? No, everyone knows where they are and that's fine. But Kozlik chose to publish the names. It was a mistake, fine, so I asked him kindly to remove the names. And what was his answer? "You weren't kind to me last time so no". Am I the only one on that list potentially affected? Of course not, but he took it personally against me and didn't change a thing.
And I wasn't even the first one to question the method, the first reply to the list was "Owners, are you agree with this info share?"
He didn't even ask, and didn't even say you're right I'm sorry. That's how he works.
He's really good at what he does, training players and strategies and opponent scouting and NT management etc., don't get me wrong, but there's a very clear problem of communication with him, and I'm not the only one to think that, just read this thread! So I just thought it had to be in the open. That's not an overreaction, that's a wake up call

From: Kritulys

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:55:25 AM
Krituliai
III.14
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Second Team:
Kritulio Urėdija
So, should we inform your opponent about your mono skilled player now?

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