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From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:05:31 AM
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1. Showing SS4, SS6 shows that he's a mono skill player without secondaries. So my opponent can put a mono skill player against him and not worry about inside threats
2. He has been playing PF/C for the past half season. But I guess you're to proud to see that
3. I was polite the first time. And the second time. Third time? Why would I be polite 3 times with somebody that don't listen?
3b. Not publishing any information is asking to be kind? Don't you dare select him for the NT, I would do anything I could to not be kind =) (only applies to you as a NT coach)
4. I did it to help MY U21 team in ONE game. And how is it a favor to NOT give information to competitors? You could easily have given the information WITHOUT revealing the names and owners. YOU chose to do it like that, which is against the NT coach rules btw

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294370.886 in reply to 294370.885
Date: 2/19/2020 10:17:46 AM
Vilkiukai
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Your arguments unjustified. Any manager looking at that player performance vs matchups, especially the ones playing in your league and the ones who have had chance to test it out, would manage to determine it is monoskill.

I think you just looking for some thread to hook on to innitiate argument fight lol, thats pathetic.

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:22:46 AM
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I'm not looking for any argument, I was just asking for my player skills not to be in the open like that. And there is a very simple solution for that: just don't publish the names! But it seems it's too much to ask

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:30:44 AM
Vilkiukai
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Ofcouse it could be done better, i mean the list. But dont you think you are overreacting toomuch? The way it is listed now is lets say inconclusive. Ofcource if it would have been skills, atleast one main skill lets say 18 IS on guard or something like that, that would really be toomuch. I dont like Kozlik either, but in this case i dont see why so much noise for that little, especially having in mind extremely low chances seeing this list at all.

Hiding names, i think it is his decision. And it might have been an influence for you arguing with him before, so maybe it is just a matter of principle to him.

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 2/19/2020 10:32:50 AM

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294370.889 in reply to 294370.888
Date: 2/19/2020 10:41:42 AM
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So much noise is only one forum post! And I'm not the only one on that list, so I needed them to know. No it probably doesn't change anything, but what if it did? That's how Kozlik works, he does something and doesn't even ask for forgiveness afterwards. Even you admit that it's wrong. If he removes the names from the list, does it give you (lithuanian NT fans) any less information? Does it give the owner any less information? No, everyone knows where they are and that's fine. But Kozlik chose to publish the names. It was a mistake, fine, so I asked him kindly to remove the names. And what was his answer? "You weren't kind to me last time so no". Am I the only one on that list potentially affected? Of course not, but he took it personally against me and didn't change a thing.
And I wasn't even the first one to question the method, the first reply to the list was "Owners, are you agree with this info share?"
He didn't even ask, and didn't even say you're right I'm sorry. That's how he works.
He's really good at what he does, training players and strategies and opponent scouting and NT management etc., don't get me wrong, but there's a very clear problem of communication with him, and I'm not the only one to think that, just read this thread! So I just thought it had to be in the open. That's not an overreaction, that's a wake up call

From: Kritulys

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:55:25 AM
Krituliai
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So, should we inform your opponent about your mono skilled player now?

From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/19/2020 10:59:24 AM
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No need, they only need to check his national thread =)

From: Kritulys

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Date: 2/19/2020 11:21:47 AM
Krituliai
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Nah, mate, we have to.

At least then you'll have something you can go drama queen about.

As I've said before. Get a life, nerd. No one gives a fuck about our national team thread, jee

From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/19/2020 11:27:41 AM
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Says the one writing on that very same thread.

cheers mate

From: kozlik4

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Date: 2/19/2020 3:03:18 PM
KS Goldena
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Your player is the worst from that list...but you make the biggest noise:D It talks a lot about you:P

I removed information about SS6 and SS4. Is it ok for you now?

Does it give the owner any less information? No, everyone knows where they are and that's fine. But Kozlik chose to publish the names.

It isn't information only for owners. Main goal was making NT closer to all Lithuanian community.


From: Fwinns

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Date: 2/19/2020 3:10:56 PM
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I didn't mind about SS6 and SS4 being published, this is useful information when you're training and you want to see where your player stands. My only problem is that you could associate them to the players. The owners know where there players are just by looking at SS6/SS4, no need to make that public.
And I'm the only one who said something because I'm probably the only one who had seen that and had a problem with that, no need to get personal or rewrite history. But if I could find it, somebody else could and use it against me. If they use it against the NT, then that's your choice.

We had a difference of opinion about him, that doesn't mean everything I say is wrong and everything you say or do is right. You've got to remember that these are not your players, no matter what you may think.

Anyway thank you for editing your post, even though personally I would have done it the other way (leave the SS6/SS4, remove the names/owners). But then again, difference of opinion.

Edit: you should do it for all the players, not only mine, but oh well

Last edited by Fwinns at 2/19/2020 3:12:48 PM

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