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So much noise is only one forum post! And I'm not the only one on that list, so I needed them to know. No it probably doesn't change anything, but what if it did? That's how Kozlik works, he does something and doesn't even ask for forgiveness afterwards. Even you admit that it's wrong. If he removes the names from the list, does it give you (lithuanian NT fans) any less information? Does it give the owner any less information? No, everyone knows where they are and that's fine. But Kozlik chose to publish the names. It was a mistake, fine, so I asked him kindly to remove the names. And what was his answer? "You weren't kind to me last time so no". Am I the only one on that list potentially affected? Of course not, but he took it personally against me and didn't change a thing.
And I wasn't even the first one to question the method, the first reply to the list was "Owners, are you agree with this info share?"
He didn't even ask, and didn't even say you're right I'm sorry. That's how he works.
He's really good at what he does, training players and strategies and opponent scouting and NT management etc., don't get me wrong, but there's a very clear problem of communication with him, and I'm not the only one to think that, just read this thread! So I just thought it had to be in the open. That's not an overreaction, that's a wake up call

So, should we inform your opponent about your mono skilled player now?

No need, they only need to check his national thread =)

Nah, mate, we have to.

At least then you'll have something you can go drama queen about.

As I've said before. Get a life, nerd. No one gives a fuck about our national team thread, jee

Says the one writing on that very same thread.

cheers mate

Your player is the worst from that list...but you make the biggest noise:D It talks a lot about you:P

I removed information about SS6 and SS4. Is it ok for you now?

Does it give the owner any less information? No, everyone knows where they are and that's fine. But Kozlik chose to publish the names.

It isn't information only for owners. Main goal was making NT closer to all Lithuanian community.

I didn't mind about SS6 and SS4 being published, this is useful information when you're training and you want to see where your player stands. My only problem is that you could associate them to the players. The owners know where there players are just by looking at SS6/SS4, no need to make that public.
And I'm the only one who said something because I'm probably the only one who had seen that and had a problem with that, no need to get personal or rewrite history. But if I could find it, somebody else could and use it against me. If they use it against the NT, then that's your choice.

We had a difference of opinion about him, that doesn't mean everything I say is wrong and everything you say or do is right. You've got to remember that these are not your players, no matter what you may think.

Anyway thank you for editing your post, even though personally I would have done it the other way (leave the SS6/SS4, remove the names/owners). But then again, difference of opinion.

Edit: you should do it for all the players, not only mine, but oh well

Last edited by Fwinns at 2/19/2020 3:12:48 PM

And I'm the only one who said something because I'm probably the only one who had seen that and had a problem with that, no need to get personal or rewrite history

Everybody had seen. Lol you had even notified everybody personally:D (294370.881). You have a nerve to claim that you are the only one who had seen??? The same was last time, when we send hundreds mails encouraging to train in appropriate way and only you had problem with it and made similar noise:-)

Such small thing like stupid SS6 SS4 on foreign forum (lol) in NT thread (when Canada played last time with Lithuania? LOL) or resuming request for training inside skills (lol) is a cause to make big noise for you, but buying player only for intentional harming Lithuania U-21 is ok for you, right? It was fair then? You are teaching me what is ok and what isn't, now???

Anyway thank you for editing your post, even though personally I would have done it the other way (leave the SS6/SS4, remove the names/owners). But then again, difference of opinion.

Read second part of my last post again, maybe you will understand what I meant. I think Lithuanian community understood it, so you really don't need to care about it;-) Anyway, Names are needed. Numbers only wouldn't make NT closer to whole community. I want to everybody are able to evaluate players usefullness. On the other hand sum of skills isn't such a detailed information to be able to harm our NT.

I edited post as you wished. I think we should already finish this conversations. I really don't need your advices.

Last edited by kozlik4 at 2/19/2020 5:28:32 PM

Kozlik, with all due respect but in my opinion Canadian guy is right and it seems that you simply don't want to take his opinion seriously. If I would have a player and I would still play in plays offs I wouldn't want my players skills to be shown in this kind of way. This info gives an advantage to my opponent. He has a valid point though. But you have valid point too, I understand why you did it etc, it helps others to evaluate their players and give them direction of how to train potential NT candidates.

Such small thing like stupid SS6 SS4 on foreign forum (lol) in NT thread (when Canada played last time with Lithuania? LOL) or resuming request for training inside skills (lol) is a cause to make big noise for you, but buying player only for intentional harming Lithuania U-21 is ok for you, right? It was fair then? You are teaching me what is ok and what isn't, now???

If you don't think there's a difference in fairness between ME buying a player to help MY U21 team in ONE game, and YOU making public part of the skills of ~40 players from 40 different owners, which could affect every one of them individually, what more can I say? On one hand the only thing I'm hurting is the opponent, ONCE, by lowering the gameshape of a player at MY cost, and on the other hand you are risking hurting the game of ~40 owners for what gain precisely? How will that win you any game or give you any advantage? Ask yourself who is really benefiting from releasing the names.

And once again because you don't seem to read what I wrote multiple times, I don't mind that you published the SS6/SS4, it's a great thing to do to boost training, I've done it in the past, others have, no question about that it's a great way to involve the community. The only problem I have is with the release of the names. A list of names without any other information not accessible to the general public? Fine. A list of skills without names to be able to identify the player? Fine as well, even better if it's a full list of skills. Both at the same time? Yeah no that's not fair to me AND the other owners, no matter how you try to turn it, even more so when you didn't take the time to ask beforehand the owners if you could release it. Most wouldn't mind, I even would have told you go ahead for Prekevicius, but wait until the end of the playoffs. Instead you didn't ask, your choice, what more can I say? You're so focused on me when I'm trying to show you the bigger picture.