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Well, as I wrote, the developers and their manager will take the call.
I only gave answers to all of the irrelevant claims that were given.

All the other things you wrote will just not change anything here for the site developers, and are totaly due to frustration that your excuses had been answered.

My main problem with this suggestion is that bidding is fun.
It binds users to the game, it builds up their loyalty.
Therefore, auto-bid would make early users not intrigued about the whole game as much as normal bidding does.


Now, I know you will deem this claim as irrelevant, but oh well.

1) They could continue bidding after the auto-bid part.
As currently users that cannot attend auction mught just put the max bidding from start, there is no difference.

2) Auction is not the main thing in this game.
It is not for communicating through bidding.

3) In case those users are not in to communication through auctions, they will just won't anyhow.
The same goes the other way around.
In case they do like communication through auctions, they will just would! (after the auto-bid part).

4) You could always say, let the auto-bid part be hidden and let the process take its own ful time - bidding each auto bid between 1 second before auction end and 3 minutes.

Basically, there is no hole in this suggestion.
Just users who may prefer to keep a state where they have some unfair advantage.

1) I think that a user that chooses to auto-bid, will do it because it's convenient, as in: "Now I can forget about it". How many of them would continue to bid after their auto-bid expires? It's almost a contradiction.
And currently, users either put max bidding from the start OR skip to the next bid, and they actually take part in it.

2) Early users use the transfer market a lot more than veterans. The fun of bidding has a great role in gaining an early user's loyalty to the game.

3) I never talked about this "communication" thing, so I don't understand why you come up with this point here.

4) I didn't say that bidding against auto-bidders is less fun; you are right, one could barely notice that he's bidding against a bot and not a human. But this is not the point. It's auto-bidders who would have less fun, not their opponents. Early users would probably find auto-bidding very convenient, and they would use it, THEREFORE they will be a lot less active and ultimately less bound to the game.

Finally, I never made any deal in "strange" times of the day/night, so I have never exploited the "unfair" advantage you talk about, but still: I like the current system more than the one you propose.

4) I didn't say that bidding against auto-bidders is less fun; you are right, one could barely notice that he's bidding against a bot and not a human. But this is not the point. It's auto-bidders who would have less fun, not their opponents.

Well, I will say it. It is less fun. And you can easily notice whether there is an auto-bid or a real person, unless attempts are made to cover the fact that it is a bot doing the bidding.

1) A player who would like the convenience of it will also would not bother in current system to stay to bid-war, but will just put MAX bid or would just continue to the next auction.
So, this point had been removed.

2) Maybe they use it more, but it does not mean they are interacting a lot on it. Again, see my first point.
It also don't mean that due to auction they stay in the game, there are much more to enjoy as a newbee.
In addition, users are leaving the game due to the unfairness of current auction system.

Summarizing your new claims and their answers.
C: New users prefer get into this game due to the interactive auction system.
A: It is available also in my suggested system.
It is not the main thing here who lore them in.
If they would prefer the conveniency they woud also do it in current system by placing a single bid or by not interacting.

C: Auto-biders will have less fun.
A: Who says so? One who will want to be part of a "regular" auction could be part of one.
When it is in an unconvenient time they could not attend it anyhow.
It is for them to decide.

If the player out of 1) bids the Max anyway if he cannot auto-bid, where is the problem you´re looking to fix?

I like how you take one person's point, break into 4, then pretend to summarize it back to a (completely different) one.

I clearly said I have one problem with your idea.

This one:

New users get tied to the game mainly because of the transfer market. If they have the chance auto-bid, they will always use it because it's less time-consuming (we all like short-cuts), but they won't realise the fun behind regular bidding, and they will ultimately get less tied to the game. Which is of course a bad outcome.

New users will try ALL.
If they would prefer the Auto-Bid system they would stick with it.
In case they don't, they won't.
The suggested auction system does NOT prevent it.

When the auction is at a time a user could not attend, they just has no way of being a "live" bidder under the current system, so no advantage here.
Under auto-bid they have much bigger role and it is much more fair one for them on this scenario.

New users does not get tied to the game due to the auction.
You understand that this site is about BB managing and it is not called eBay. Right?

Last edited by Pini פיני at 10/25/2011 3:48:48 PM