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Date: 3/19/2015 1:21:48 AM
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And two of them, with salaries of $18,476 and $16,207 just failed to get an opening bid of $1,000. You could have bid on these guys days ago and gotten either one. No bidding war. No need to be online when the auction ends. And this really is not that uncommon. I normally dump my lvl 4 trainers when their salary hits $20k/wk and find another one with a starting salary below $13k, spending somewhere between $10k to to $100k to make the purchase. Been doing that for a long time.

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Date: 3/19/2015 2:06:13 AM
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When I search for trainers I am shown the following skill levels:
1. basic
2. competent
3. advanced
4. superior
5. exceptional
6. world-renowned

I begin to suspect that maybe I am not being shown something.

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Date: 3/19/2015 6:20:41 AM
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I would still like to see a fair computation of the current situation.

Here is tool, which calculates real cost of trainer (or PR manager / doctor) according to price and starting wage:
http://bbtools.x10.mx/staff/

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Date: 3/19/2015 7:24:00 AM
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Mike, I was being conservative and giving the benefit of a reasonably cheap rate when I used the 20k number originally. In my experience the signing fee is around 70k-150k for an advanced trainer with a starting salary around 15k (including the severance pay to the old trainer) and a specialty, so that's what I consider to be the benchmark. We all know it can be more, but it is usually more for trainers who start at 12-13k salary.

Lower level trainers increase their salary noticeably slower than exceptional/world reknowned trainers. So if you buy a 90k a week World Reknowned for 1k fee his salary will balloon to 127k after 1 season and 180k (double) after 2 seasons. When you get rid of this guy you still have to pay him an extra salary as well, which is not going to be irrelevant.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 3/19/2015 7:32:48 AM

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268259.96 in reply to 268259.91
Date: 3/19/2015 8:10:54 AM
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Its a lot about perceptions.
I cost look at the all-in cost before replacement for about 2 seasons. So if I have to pay 1k for a 80k lvl 7, that would equal paying 2.7 million for a 15k lvl 4 trainer or about 1.7 million for a 40k lvl 6 trainer.

There are a lot more lvl 4 than lvl 5 trainers on the market. Lvl 6 and lvl 7 trainers are much rarer. I have no idea if the number of 'new' (i.e. not the fired ones who are put back into the staff market) trainers has changed over time but I think the rarity is what determines the price (and the specialty).


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Date: 3/19/2015 8:59:19 AM
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.post it on the forums hat l4s are enough and suddenly that price wil go up.

Knowledgeable players have been posting on the forums for years that an advanced (lvl 4) trainer is sufficient for training and generally the best bang for your buck. This is not new information being posted in this thread for the first time.

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Date: 3/19/2015 9:31:42 AM
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That didn't sound right, so I took a quick look at the level four trainers on the market right now, just as a quick snapshot. Of the next ten level 4 trainers listed, only two have a salary under $20,000 and 8 are above that line. The bidding on the two under that line is at $520,200 for Leo Belu and $173,400 for Achacjusz Anonim, an auction with more than seven hours to run. Of the other eight level 4 trainers, only one has a salary in the $20's, and his bidding is already up to $325,000. Three salaries are in the $30's, three in the $40's, and the final guy has a salary of $79,340 (he also has a specialty).

So, upon closer scrutiny, a nice "calculation" turns out just to be a story. I would like to see fair calculations on this topic.


$20k is actually a high estimate. I generally would pick up a trainer with about 13-14k salary for a very low signing bonus and keep him until roughly 18k or so.

As far as the discrepancy you're observing, I think it's almost certainly the case that you picked the fourth level listed in the search dropdown and saw the trainers with "superior" skill. Because you can't search for staff with minimal skill level (level 1), the dropdown starts at basic (level 2). Level 4 is advanced, and it should not be too difficult to find guys at ~14k within a few days that you have to pay less than 5k to sign, though of course if you're patient or willing to spend more, you can get them at 11k salaries or even slightly lower.

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