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125552.9 in reply to 125552.8
Date: 12/30/2009 11:15:31 PM
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Do you know what is brainstorming and how it works?


No, I don't have a brain.

I'm referring to the easy part.

Clearly it's not easy, and I'm not the only one this time pointing it out.

I'm not the one that can accurately say whether or not such a search would cause load-induced problems or not. I'd love for the answer to be not, of course, but if it is, it is.

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125552.10 in reply to 125552.9
Date: 12/31/2009 6:59:16 AM
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Clearly it's not easy, and I'm not the only one this time pointing it out.


Once long time ago I talked about this with BB-Mark and he pointed out that there would be too much load for servers, that`s why they made search as it is now. And this was at the times BB just dreamed to ever reach 30k users. So my guess would be that now it`s even more impossible then it was long time ago to improve search system as it could course some server crashes if plenty of users would try to search using just 2 letters in surname at the same time...

So I choose crappy search system, but fast BB website.

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125552.11 in reply to 125552.10
Date: 12/31/2009 7:32:10 AM
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Well, for example... what if they don't need to load all players? They can load 20, and after user click "more" then load next 20 :P

From: ZyZla

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125552.12 in reply to 125552.11
Date: 12/31/2009 7:40:31 AM
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and what is the difference here???? Server still firstly has to find all of them and just after that split them in groups of 20 players per page... Splitting is not for saving server load, it`s for not scrolling your mouse wheel a lot till you reach the bottom of the list and getting confused cause you see too much info in one place.

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125552.13 in reply to 125552.12
Date: 12/31/2009 8:04:12 AM
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How Google works? Yes it has a lot of servers, the best technology... but data that Google operate with in every "load" is much larger. So it's possible.

I believe that it could be done if you separate client - searching - server. So you don't need to connect to server and load all data. If client want some name, he send that name to searching. Then searching use that name and make his own logic (Algorithm) for requesting data from server. When searching has first 20 names, then he send those results to client and remember where the Algorithm stops. If client want more results, he send request for new search. And then searching continue searching for next 20 in same way like first time, but only Algorithm starting position is different.

From: ZyZla

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125552.14 in reply to 125552.13
Date: 12/31/2009 9:27:34 AM
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so this means BB need hole new server for this... And that costs lots of money...

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125552.15 in reply to 125552.13
Date: 12/31/2009 9:32:15 AM
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How Google works? Yes it has a lot of servers, the best technology


Google is also a billion dollar company.

If you gave BuzzerBeater a billion dollars I'd bet they'd give you your own server.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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125552.16 in reply to 125552.15
Date: 12/31/2009 9:46:55 AM
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I didnt say that you need new server. Everything is the Algorithm! Google earn billion dollar, they started from nothing!

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125552.17 in reply to 125552.16
Date: 12/31/2009 9:48:25 AM
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I didnt say that you need new server.


No, I said we would.

NO ONE at this table ordered a rum & Coke
Charles: Penn has some good people
A CT? Really?
Any two will do
Any three for me
Any four will score
Any five are live
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From: BB-Mark

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125552.19 in reply to 125552.17
Date: 12/31/2009 8:05:57 PM
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Well, let me give a different answer.

If I look in the database for "Mark" as a first name, I get 47,803 results for players (including "Markus," etc., which would also be returned). This will only increase with time, as we also return retired players. Even if we look only at active players, that returns 21,143 results.

There are also 1457 players with my last name, which is not particularly common.

There are 7 players with my first name and my last name, and that's a much more manageable set of results.

I hope this gives an idea why what you suggest might not be the most useful feature :-)

Last edited by BB-Mark at 12/31/2009 8:07:09 PM

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