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Thanks Marin. Based on our current bbapi applications, here's what we'd really love to have. If others have other uses that I'm not thinking of, please chime in. Basically, two categories (with wildly different scopes).

(1) Extend the existing bbapi pages to work with NT info. This would include:
The teaminfo, schedule, standings and roster pages should accept an NT ID (e.g., 1 for US NT, 1001 for the US U21, etc). The boxscore page should accept an NT match ID. I don't think there are any *new* pages needed here, but from what I've gathered, making this info available may be non-trivial.

I can see a few complications here:

- the standings page is not straightforward since a single team may be in more than one "league" per season (different qualifying rounds, the repechage, tournament, etc). At the least, this probably means adding an identifier to the standings page to reflect what it's returning. At worst, it means querying these pages would need an additional input. In fact, thinking about this, standings may need a completely different interface (and, at least in my opinion, are a low priority).

- the roster page should work the way club rosters do now: if requested by the coach, they get the full skills along with the players. if requested by anyone else, they get just public info. In my opinion, we don't need to make a change to individual player pages to allow the coach to see skills if they're on the NT, since you'd be able to get them through the roster page, but others may disagree.

- the teaminfo page should have world rank as an additional parameter.

(2) Player pages should be modified to include a flag indicating if the player is on the NT or u21, viewable by everyone.


Some of these seem much harder than others. If I were prioritizing, this would be my list:
- NT rosters made available, with skills visible to the coach.
- NT schedules available through the existing schedule.aspx, with a string indicating the match type (round robin for continental/worlds, repechage, consolation, with an extension indicating semifinals/finals, e.g., continentals.semifinal, etc).
- NT boxscores available through the existing boxscore.aspx, with the same match type indicator as on the schedule.
- Add an NT/u21 flag to the player.aspx page (and things that call the player element, such as roster.aspx)
(big gap)
- NT teaminfo page through the existing teaminfo.aspx, with world rank added
- NT standings page


Last edited by wozzvt at 5/17/2012 9:57:53 AM

Seems like a good start. I can't promise you when I'll start work on it but yeah, it can be done. Also, I'd still like to hear what others think.

I would like to lookup the current NT coach.

Then you can bind the coach to a user and make sure that it changes after a NT selection.

The most important thing that is missing right now (in my opinion) is the option to see When was the last login of a manager how holds a U21 prospect?

In our country we don't get many prospects and most of them goes to league IV(the lowest league that doesn't include just bots). Most of the teams in the fourth legue are always in danger of becoming bots. The managers are new in the game and many of them suddenly disappear. Therefore ,despite our efforts to prevent it, we loss some great prospects every season and it hurts us badly.

I know that isn't a page about NT but it is a toll that will help us a lot

Are you serious?
Go to that managers league overview. Click on the Big 8 or Great 8 (whichever side he is on) and voila, user last online info is right there for you.

Are you serious?
Go to that managers league overview. Click on the Big 8 or Great 8 (whichever side he is on) and voila, user last online info is right there for you.

you're in the wrong forum

Right now I can do it manually but there isn't an option to do it through bbapi

That can be added rather easily. Remember to put it in the final proposal.

A suggestion from one of the NT coaches:

Since it's painful to check one by one all potential NT players, could bbapi allow NT managers to see skills of players from same country?

So in short; if Bahamas NT coach logs into bbapi and checks a roster.aspx of random team, he can see all skills of Bahamian players.

Since NT coaches already can do that on site, I don't see a reason why they wouldn't in bbapi, that would just ease their painful job of checking one by one all potential NT players.

i STRONGLY disagree with this suggestion

why? for this reason (217925.1)


one thing is being able to manually check a player (and you receive a warning if a player is temporarily put in the NT)
knowing every skill of every player of a country whenever you want is another thing

Seriously? Do I really need to explain it?

(217925.1)

Here YOU ARE logging on random site, with YOUR data, and you risk giving all your players skills to random user.

(173460.10)

It's only for NT managers. They already CAN SEE the skills of players from same country in ANY team, and the suggestion is to do same for bbapi.

forgot to reply to this part:

one thing is being able to manually check a player (and you receive a warning if a player is temporarily put in the NT)
knowing every skill of every player of a country whenever you want is another thing

if he only would want to check them all, he would, and what gives you that warning? Uhm, nothing?

Last edited by RSX at 5/22/2012 4:22:10 PM