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199880.9 in reply to 199880.8
Date: 11/3/2011 8:26:09 AM
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winning spots on the world ranking is very hard.

As for GM-Arsjitekt:

Netherlands NT was on the 22 spot when you left (was one spot higher than Belgium at that time ;)

Futhermore, to answer to Thelonious:

A team that doesn't make the European championship, often ends up on the world rankings at position 35 or lower, regardless the position it started. Belgium started this season as 23 ranked team world wide. We have now fallen to the 42nd spot, and we'll most likely still lose a few spots unless we get far in the consolation tournament. You get alot of points for the primairy competitive games, regardless if you win or lose ( win gives you some more ofcourse). So a team ranked 50th, that makes the european championship, will win alot of spots, even tho it loses all it's games...

In Europe, most teams have got 7 competitive games in their first NT season, and another 8, maybe 9 in consolation tourney, that doesn't give as many points as the repechage pool or the World cup games...

In america, Asia, and other countries, they've got many more competitive games. Why do you think that between rank 30 and 60 of the NT ranking, that their are nearly only European teams?

Nigeria and Misr ( Egypt) always are in the top 30. why? because they always get to take part in the world championship as representatives of Africa. However, Most of the european teams ranked between 30 and 50 can beat those 2 teams on neutral ground with their NT's...

So world ranking isn't that important. It's Continent ranking that really counts. And if you look at the Netherlands, then they've done a very good job under GM-Arsjitekt. Under GM-Arsjitekt, the Netherlands have been in the top 10 european nations all the time. Considering that Spain, Poland, Italy and France are near unbeatable, due to their large ammount of talent that they have at their disposal, i'd say that is a very good job.

GM-Arjitekts achievements with the dtuch NT can be put on par with JoE Mavericks achievements with the Belgian NT in season 9.

As for Arsjitekt:

what do you prefer most for the bigs: C with JS 3 and IS 16 or a C with JS 9 and a IS of 14 and please do explain why (i'm talking about a inside orientated attack, and you can assume that all other skills are the same)

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199880.10 in reply to 199880.9
Date: 11/3/2011 10:26:03 AM
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That’s a nice question, in which the answer isn’t that simple than I rather have this one than that one.
It all depends on quite a few factors
1. The skills or the expected skillset expected direct opponent (the player he is playing against)
2. The skillset of the player in question
3. The inside attack played, Look Inside or Low Post
4. The skillset of the other players in the team
5. The defence you expect your opponent to play
6. The average skill of the team which you’re playing against
7. The strength and weaknesses of the own team.
Unfortunately there isn’t just one answer to your question. The player with JS = 9 + IS = 14 will be referred to as player 1, The JS = 3 + IS = 16 will referred to as player 2
I can write out all of these scenario’s, but I’m probably able to write about 10 pages about this question. So I’ll try to summarize it, for the most common situations.
Player one is more often suitable against opponents whom you have to profit from your sideskills, and when you know you’re headskills aren’t good enough. That almost always means playing a Low Post, since you make use of this more with this tactic, and when they got rebounding, you like to wait your players only to take the best shots. Player two is probably better if you’re team is good in ball circulation (handling, passing), and you are probably about equal in headskills with your opponent, or a bit better. Player one would again be better if the opponent is a lot worse so you can use both strengths.

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199880.13 in reply to 199880.12
Date: 11/3/2011 11:19:59 AM
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So let me get that straight. Good JS on your center is more interesting when playing LP than LI?

Yes in practice it is.

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199880.14 in reply to 199880.13
Date: 11/5/2011 7:03:22 AM
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I have a question except subject slightly.

I'm agree that the langage of this site is English for a great majority of the BB-player.
But in Belgium we have three official langages. I know that you speak very well English and logically Dutch but how are you contact a young player who speaks only German? or French?

I think you have a team with you and in this team you have some guys who speak these langages, isn't it?

Thank you for your answer.


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199880.15 in reply to 199880.14
Date: 11/5/2011 1:26:39 PM
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Hello Bao.

I'm fluent in dutch, english and frisian, my german is fine, and I have a bit more than basic understanding of the french language (had it for 2 years at school), and I look forward to using these languages.

I understand Belgium has got a structure behind the U21/NT with people which are devoted to their jobs. I hope they are willing to work with me to a better U21. I'm not bringing in my own team. Also I hope that these people will help me to communicate with the belgian trainers and U21-followers. Because nobody can do this job well alone.

Greetings,

GM-Arsjitekt

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199880.16 in reply to 199880.15
Date: 11/5/2011 7:00:57 PM
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Thank you very for this great answer. Congratulations to speak all these languages. I think that you will have my vote.

Bao