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Having a team with "no" shotblocking means you´re having a team seriously in troubles against penetration offense.

At least the Center, more likely the Center and the PF should have a more-than-solid amount of SB to help the TEAM. I guess the 4 x 12 Player would be a great team player, but no one to focus your offense on. Still, he´s an extremely useful guy off the bench or complementary to outside shooting offenses.

And you really don´t reach SB 10 or 12 without "wasting" a week or two a season on that silly skill, but OTOH, big men get too expensive quick anyways, so those can waste plenty weeks if they have proper size. Big Men over 80 - 120k rarely perform up to their cost (unless at top level).

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Im not suggesting that a team would have "no" shotblocking. If you are training properly(especially with cross training now) the training that shot blocking would get from ID should be enough to get that player to a good enough level of shotblocking. Unless that player is starting at 1-3 shotblocking. In that case I would probably train SB after I have pumped my primaries and secondaries, but honestly in my mind even 7 shotblocking is sufficient for a big man to have.

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Having a team with "no" shotblocking means you´re having a team seriously in troubles against penetration offense.

Great point. Many say SB would be the key to stop Look Inside which is a very usual offense for many teams, especially in the BBB. Of course lots of ID is needed with it, but those two skills might even be equally important when it comes to shutting LI down.
I personally believe in SB, because it find it hard to think that BBs would have created a skill that is significantly less important than others. Not saying it should be the highest skill of a C/PF, but it should not be far behind. And for a defensive center, perhaps ID level = SB level (?)
Unfortunately I dont have any propriate proof for my arguments, so it'll just have to stay as my opinion.
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SB is definitely trickiest of all skills. I have not tested it to get super bonus, but hey! i have to leave some challenges. In basketball, shot blocking, is desperate attempt to fix your bad defence. SB=Attractive shit :D

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That is so true in real life! (+1 for that)

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After I entered Div II in Germany I had a team which was pretty competitive on paper, but couldnt stop anybody even if our lives depended on it and commited WAY too many fouls. I had to rebuild and purchased a non-fouling Center with a Team-High ID and SB, and all of a sudden most foul troubles were gone and I easily reachend place 4 and the playoffs.

Now in my second season I´m into different troubles, rebuilding again, but I´m a huge fan of at least double digit Blocking on the Center position and 8+ on the PF since. I´d also like to have one guard / sf defender with a combination of OD + ID + SB higher than 30 for special purposes, though I´m not sure how SB affects guard play yet.

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Since SB increases the pressure of the defense right on the shot, then it would make sense for a player with lower SB to foul more, because they do not know any better :)

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After I entered Div II in Germany I had a team which was pretty competitive on paper, but couldnt stop anybody even if our lives depended on it and commited WAY too many fouls. I had to rebuild and purchased a non-fouling Center with a Team-High ID and SB, and all of a sudden most foul troubles were gone and I easily reachend place 4 and the playoffs.

Now in my second season I´m into different troubles, rebuilding again, but I´m a huge fan of at least double digit Blocking on the Center position and 8+ on the PF since. I´d also like to have one guard / sf defender with a combination of OD + ID + SB higher than 30 for special purposes, though I´m not sure how SB affects guard play yet.


I have it and the times i see a better performance it's when i play in zone.

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Yeah, either the Zone or the Boxes seem perfect for those guys. In m2m, plenty of the "soft skills" seem to disappear to some degree.

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Date: 1/2/2012 8:48:27 PM
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For zones I think a mix of OD and SB on your big man is great, especially in a 2-3. If a guard penetrates in and then takes a jump shot, you'll need OD on your big man to pressure the handler, and then SB to pressure the shot. I'm kind of a hypocrite here since both my big men trainees have bad OD and okay SB, but you'll probably get away with running a 2-3 with players like mine in lower divisions. As you move up though, if you try running a 2-3 with players with bad-ok OD and SB, then your player will either get into foul trouble, or the guard will light your team up if he has high Driving and JS.

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Date: 1/2/2012 8:55:12 PM
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I personally believe in SB, because it find it hard to think that BBs would have created a skill that is significantly less important than others.

What you say makes perfect sense. If SB had no value in the game whatsoever, then why would the BB's bother implementing the skill into the game, unless they enjoy watching us argue over a skill we know very little about. I highly doubt this though. If Sb had no value, then it would probably just be part of ID, which it may be associated with now, but obviously has characteristics unique enough to distinguish itself from ID. When I think of shotblocking as a skill, i often think stealing should be its own separate skill too, but obviously the BB's did not think so, meaning SB must have its worth.

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