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206866.10 in reply to 206866.9
Date: 1/21/2012 8:52:47 AM
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At the NBA, almost each team is from a different state in USA, and the identity is not an issue there either.

That is because they are still playing US teams and not like if you put Korea, Japan and Taiwan together that are three different nations.
And does not teams that play in the Euroleague play in their own nation as well?

And still, NY is a all different state than Alaska or California.
The same as Korea and Japan are different states in Asia.

The teams playing in the Euroleague are also playing in their own league, but still when they are playing at the Euroleague, they do not lose any "identity".

I'll repeat, just for you - Having more teams in a conference/BB-nation will make the game harder - more teams, the harder it is. But, it will make the game much more interesting.
Those who are here for an eBay-game, and doing nothing, will leave.
But all those who are here for a challenging BB-game will enjoy this game much more and join-in.

We can also add All-But-One bot teams for them..., this will do the trick for those...

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206866.11 in reply to 206866.10
Date: 1/21/2012 9:02:39 AM
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I'll repeat, just for you - Having more teams in a conference/BB-nation will make the game harder - more teams, the harder it is. But, it will make the game much more interesting.
Those who are here for an eBay-game, and doing nothing, will leave.
But all those who are here for a challenging BB-game will enjoy this game much more and join-in.

We can also add All-But-One bot teams for them..., this will do the trick for those...

And I'll repeat: you're not necessarily correct. There are many definitions of "harder", and many different paths to follow. "Bigger" does not necessarily equate to "harder". Definitely not easier - just different.
Still, I'll ask: what experience do you have in playing in the smaller nations such as the ones that you are suggesting amalgamate?

And still, NY is a all different state than Alaska or California.
The same as Korea and Japan are different states in Asia.

This is incorrect on so many levels.

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206866.12 in reply to 206866.8
Date: 1/21/2012 9:04:55 AM
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Manually moving teams would have to be done in teh offseason. If they did just Japan for example....that would be unfair. If they go do it for all the 20~60 user nations (not sure how many there are) it would be a lot of teams ,a lot of manual work. And that would slowdown offseason processing. And it might break somewhere as well....

They don7t ahve teh resources to do it manually.

Some kinda fix/solution for the processing is probably in order, but they don7t ahve the resources to that either I would guess.....

The fix is needed but like with so many other things it wont happen most likely.

I think you're right...
1. It is a problem that is unlikely to be fixed. Lots of other stuff that needs attention that's generally still an issue.
2. They don't have the resources to do what's necessary for many of the issues found in the game.
3. The reality is that 20-60 user nations simply aren't a priority for those that run the game.

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Date: 1/21/2012 10:11:11 AM
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And I'll repeat: you're not necessarily correct. There are many definitions of "harder", and many different paths to follow. "Bigger" does not necessarily equate to "harder". Definitely not easier - just different.
Still, I'll ask: what experience do you have in playing in the smaller nations such as the ones that you are suggesting amalgamate?
This game is not intended to be "Spider-Solitaire" or that sort of single user (or two).
This game challenge is by playing against a full load of users.

And still, NY is a all different state than Alaska or California.
The same as Korea and Japan are different states in Asia.
This is incorrect on so many levels.
And so had been East-Germany and West-Germany, and Czech and Poland (those last had been both part of USSR).

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Date: 1/21/2012 10:18:43 AM
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The reality is that 20-60 user nations simply aren't a priority for those that run the game.

Business-wise, this is not the right way to do it, so I guess this is not what they are looking at.
A BB-nation that is small, but can grow a lot (due to the country they are representing), is something to look at with great care.

USA is not that huge BB-nation, but it is huge nation, and huge business for them.
Much more than Spain or France (for examples), which are very big BB-nations, but are representing rather small country.

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206866.17 in reply to 206866.14
Date: 1/21/2012 10:30:38 AM
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And so had been East-Germany and West-Germany, and Czech and Poland (those last had been both part of USSR).

The Czech Republic (or perhaps you mean Czechoslovakia) and Poland were never part of the Soviet Union.

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206866.18 in reply to 206866.17
Date: 1/21/2012 1:43:09 PM
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And so had been East-Germany and West-Germany, and Czech and Poland (those last had been both part of USSR).

The Czech Republic (or perhaps you mean Czechoslovakia) and Poland were never part of the Soviet Union.
This (single) time you are right... Back to school for me...

Anyhow, it just not changes too much, take Latvia and Lituania instead of those two.
They had been part of the USSR, and can be given as an example for that matter.

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Date: 1/21/2012 1:50:52 PM
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And still, NY is a all different state than Alaska or California.
The same as Korea and Japan are different states in Asia.
This is incorrect on so many levels.
And so had been East-Germany and West-Germany, and Czech and Poland (those last had been both part of USSR).

Lets not bring politics into the discussion when you live in Israel that has a never ending conflict with Palestina.
Very lame argument that had brought the only politic in this discussion. I will not get into that. [And by the way you are not familiar with that issue. Even not a bit]
The discussion had been whether it is reasonable to union few small BB-nation under a single league.
My argument proved it possible, and reasonable.
I was not supprised that you are against it, and we both know why...

This game is not intended to be "Spider-Solitaire" or that sort of single user (or two).
This game challenge is by playing against a full load of users.

But you have to look at what has happened in Japan now. Instead of having many D.II in which teams can grow you now almost have two D.1 leagues instead where new teams get thrown in and see no light in the tunnel. That will have teams getting tiered more then if they have a league with 50/50 active users/bots.
ahh???
They will become part of a single, normal sized, BB-nation, and will play there like any team that is playing in any normal-size BB-nation plays at.
They will start lower, and will grow from there.
At least, until the point that the competitiveness issue will come up (Older teams are much richer and cannot be competed against. Reminder - 3 of the biggest BB-nations: Spain, Italy and France has a not a single team that had join later than season-4 at thier DIv-1 league).

Last edited by Pini פיני at 1/21/2012 1:53:36 PM

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