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236442.9 in reply to 236442.1
Date: 2/24/2013 9:11:10 AM
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I expected to lose mine so started selling the teams deadweight for direction going for next year. But I tried to win, LCD, a tactic that supposedly gives you a better chance of winning opted to play my backup pg/sg/sf over my starting pg. which offensively could have made sense but the starter whom didn't start never entered as a sub. Further my big end backup, has average ID, the pg whom never played... Strong ID, and better in every other cat but SB and IS. I would have been fine if he just backed up 1-5 in the game, but coach decided to never play him.

I lost as I expected, but not until the 4th a when his more rested guys were outplaying my guys whom at this point were hitting stamina decline effects. So it was kind of frustrating to think a win might have been possible...

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Date: 2/24/2013 10:08:14 AM
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similar thing happen to me, my center picks up 3 fouls in at the end of the first half so my coach decides to keep him on the bench and allow the opposite team to come back from a 13 point deficit -.-.

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Date: 2/24/2013 10:13:54 AM
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the "Let Them Play" option on your Set Lineup page will fix that issue. For future reference :)

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Date: 2/24/2013 5:03:19 PM
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i know but I didn't want him to foul out all together as well. I just disagree w/ the length that he was benched

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236442.13 in reply to 236442.12
Date: 2/24/2013 5:32:54 PM
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Yeah I hear what youre saying. Generally you will be better off playing let them play, because even if he does foul out, 40 minutes and a foul out is better than 24 minutes and no foul out. Also I find that the aggressive players stay aggressive when you play sit them. So it generally results in two quick fouls, sitting for a quarter, two more quick fouls, and sitting for another quarter. Where as an aggressive player in let them play will pick up a few, but they will back off when they get into foul trouble. If they do foul out, its rarely in under 40 or so minutes.

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Date: 3/2/2013 2:14:58 PM
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Yeah I hear what youre saying. Generally you will be better off playing let them play, because even if he does foul out, 40 minutes and a foul out is better than 24 minutes and no foul out. Also I find that the aggressive players stay aggressive when you play sit them. So it generally results in two quick fouls, sitting for a quarter, two more quick fouls, and sitting for another quarter. Where as an aggressive player in let them play will pick up a few, but they will back off when they get into foul trouble. If they do foul out, its rarely in under 40 or so minutes.

I don't believe there's a shred of proof to this statement. I've seen players foul out in under 20 minutes; explain how that's possible when an aggressive player "backs off when they get into foul trouble."

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Date: 3/2/2013 2:48:27 PM
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Yeah I hear what youre saying. Generally you will be better off playing let them play, because even if he does foul out, 40 minutes and a foul out is better than 24 minutes and no foul out. Also I find that the aggressive players stay aggressive when you play sit them. So it generally results in two quick fouls, sitting for a quarter, two more quick fouls, and sitting for another quarter. Where as an aggressive player in let them play will pick up a few, but they will back off when they get into foul trouble. If they do foul out, its rarely in under 40 or so minutes.

I don't believe there's a shred of proof to this statement. I've seen players foul out in under 20 minutes; explain how that's possible when an aggressive player "backs off when they get into foul trouble."


Maybe he backs off of his guy into another guy? I'll need to remember to ask happy slappy Hutchins the next time I have a team meeting, since he fouled out in 8 minutes once early this season. Now I do think there may be something to the supposition because I've had other guys who played the final 30 minutes of a game while sitting on five fouls without picking up the sixth, but that may be that those guys aren't aggressive and just kind of sucked defensively compared to their opponents.

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Date: 3/2/2013 3:07:58 PM
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I thought that this was a known fact. I cant recall where I read/heard this, but I've been operating under the impression that aggression drops when players get into early foul trouble, leading to fewer fouls, but less effective defense as well. I don't have any proof, other than anecdotal evidence of players getting four fouls in the first half, and not fouling out until 40 or so minutes in.

I may have been mistaken in saying that players in foul trouble back off. But I stand by the fact that let them play is better, because even if thats not true, instances of foul outs in 30 minutes or less are far more rare than instances where a player with early fouls sits for far too long using sit them.

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236442.17 in reply to 236442.16
Date: 3/2/2013 4:32:59 PM
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I cant recall where I read/heard this, but I've been operating under the impression that aggression drops when players get into early foul trouble, leading to fewer fouls, but less effective defense as well.

I actually remember reading something like that. Maybe it was around the time they added the option of "sit them" or "let them play"? It seemed official too. Wish I could find it again.

It technically never said that aggression would drop though. Just that players in foul trouble were supposed to "back off" in certain defensive situations, or something like that. Which they never seemed to do. (it was obviously a misleading claim at best)

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Date: 3/2/2013 4:38:03 PM
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Now I do think there may be something to the supposition because I've had other guys who played the final 30 minutes of a game while sitting on five fouls without picking up the sixth

Except they wouldn't have had 5 fouls in 18 minutes to begin with! The 5th foul shouldn't come until midway in the 4th quarter. Not in the 2nd quarter.

Plus whenever the computer normally puts guys with 5 fouls back in (last couple minutes of the game?)... your guys should have subsequently become super aggressive again.

If there was anything to foul trouble & aggression that is.

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Date: 3/2/2013 4:52:25 PM
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Now I do think there may be something to the supposition because I've had other guys who played the final 30 minutes of a game while sitting on five fouls without picking up the sixth

Except they wouldn't have had 5 fouls in 18 minutes to begin with! The 5th foul shouldn't come until midway in the 4th quarter. Not in the 2nd quarter.

Plus whenever the computer normally puts guys with 5 fouls back in (last couple minutes of the game?)... your guys should have subsequently become super aggressive again.

If there was anything to foul trouble & aggression that is.


I meant in the "Keep them in" scenario - if the fouls are not because of aggression but instead because of less than stellar defense, perhaps they do pull back a little and avoid fouling. It would explain a couple of anecdotal cases I've had at least on guys who have not been demonstrated to be aggressive, but have been outclassed at the position they were playing. The guys who are aggressive just keep on fouling, though. ;)

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