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279457.9 in reply to 279457.2
Date: 5/24/2016 10:45:35 PM
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I know of nobody who has quit due to LI and anyone who has is pretty misguided as to their options in this game.

Last edited by GM-Perpete at 5/25/2016 7:24:08 AM

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Date: 5/25/2016 3:32:12 AM
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The thing I hate the most about LI is the wide spread "truth" that we see every day in this game that tells everyone that you have got to use LI to win at every level of competition in this game. I'm doing my best to try and prove that this is absolutely nonsense.
What I don't like either is that no matter how well I show you actually can win with another tactic the skills and salary system seems a bit designed to make it very easy to build for LI.
High IS and RB bigs and high OD, DR and IS guards and your there.
5 skills to train in total as a bare minimum.
If you look at a outside focused team you need RB, ID and SB on your bigs. And all six guard skills. So 9 vs the 5 that LI needs.
I'm gonna keep training players for anything but LI in my main team for as long as I keep playing this game and hope that more people try something else then LI and that more changes are made to make it easier for managers trying to play without using LI.
I can't say I know of anyone who left the game because of LI, but I sure have changed my way to play this game because of it.



I like how you don't respond to everything like a troll. Also, I found your answer very informative as I am a newer player. I haven't met people who have done or said or tried anything really but the inside tactics. Except bots.

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279457.14 in reply to 279457.12
Date: 6/6/2016 10:26:06 AM
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Well the LI "dominance" is one of many problems this game has. To an extent it is a manager made problem but then again not as i explained in my earlier post.
If you want to read some more about playing this game in a different way there are some reading to be done in this thread that i started some seasons ago: (262742.1)
I hope you find something interesting in that thread that perhaps makes you and others think another step before deciding to go all in on LI.


The thing that I do still find disappointing is that even when outside shooting is far and away the best option for a team, you still never see a team actually really prioritize that. For example., my game Saturday (90486324)) where my team outside shooting rating was essentially double the team outside defense I was going against, in the first 11 minutes of the fourth quarter (which started tied), my team attempted 20 shots, and only three of them were beyond the arc. After three periods where we were shooting over 50% from three and barely 33% from inside the arc, running motion, so you would hope that there'd be a little more attempt to fire the long ball.




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279457.16 in reply to 279457.14
Date: 6/6/2016 7:13:55 PM
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I remember when I first played the game and PF and C would take 5 or more 3s a game.. Especially at important points.. A lot of the poor and often bigs shooting 3s seems to have been fixed from the game engine but I think what you describe may be the consequence

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279457.19 in reply to 279457.15
Date: 6/7/2016 10:03:34 AM
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I agree that when you have a good outside shooting situation it always feels like your team wont shoot outside often enough or get the ball to the right guys.

Maybe this is a PA issue though??

I don't know though how this could be adjusted...in most cases outside is a big mistake so teams favoring inside selection is good for your team.


Maybe. My "PG" type guy that I had picked up when I was training these guys at SG has been playing SF, so I'm contemplating dumping him for yet another low-flow, high JR type to see if I can make anything but jacking up a 3 be so unpalatable that the engine bends to my will. I am already convinced that more passing just means more open layups and open jump shots, which unfortunately does not work well for me. I think I'm past the point of ever hoping the offense will be actually effective, and now I'm just hoping that I can just finish seasons with a higher 3pt % than regular shooting %.

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