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28592.9 in reply to 28592.8
Date: 5/7/2008 1:37:45 PM
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One on One is the training of choice for handling and driving, since training driving gives 80% training of handling (the skills are very similar). A recent report in the Training Speed Analys thread had it also taking three weeks to train a level of jump shot.


But you got my point, and see the stuff i write inside the () ...

And i would say handling have his advantages because i like to train 3 guys not 6 ;) And just looking at the handling and driving skills is goint as fast, and so you had to decide if you want every 4-5 Weeks an up in Jumpshot(not three, but still pretty often) or after 6-7 weeks a skill in outside defense which wasn't so effective to train then JumpShot and i think was a bit more important.

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28592.10 in reply to 28592.5
Date: 5/8/2008 1:29:52 AM
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You can train 5 players pretty easily with two positions, and it can give you a backup in case of injuries.

You could also use one of your other players as the 5th or 6th trainee. There is an overlap between skills between positions. Just because you want your PG to have good passing, doesn't mean that you want all the other positions to have bad passing. If you were training outside shooting one week, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of your forwards as the backup for one of the guard positions in the scrimmage.

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28592.11 in reply to 28592.10
Date: 5/8/2008 8:57:04 PM
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If you were training outside shooting one week, I wouldn't hesitate to use one of your forwards as the backup for one of the guard positions in the scrimmage.


How does this work? Does that forward need to play guard for all 48 minutes to get the benefit, or just starting one game works as long has he gets a total of 48 for the week?

I'm also curious on training of Small Forwards -- since they can seemingly only be trained in sets with all of the guards or C/PF/SF -- I imagine they train very slowly. Is it worth training a small forward at all? If you're looking to up his Guard-like skills, wouldn't it be more beneficial just to train the guards and allow them to be much better? Likewise with the C/PF?

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28592.12 in reply to 28592.11
Date: 5/9/2008 2:25:25 AM
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A player gets training for each minute played at a training position (up to 48) But he doesn't get the same amount of training for each minute. The 48th minute is more valuable than the 1st.

We know that 48 minutes gets 100% training and that 0 minutes gets 0% training, and that 36 minutes gets less than 75% (36/48) training. But we don't really don't know how much. Some suggest that there is a rather severe penalty, and 36 minutes might only get 50% training. It's my belief that the penalty is less, and 36 minutes might be worth something around 60-70%.

But if you are training guards, it's almost impossible to train 6 players. So it is still useful to have a 6th player to soak up whatever is left over, even if they only get 50% training for 36 minutes. But it might not make sense to pay a lot for a 6th guard trainee, or waste the training on a so-so guard, but rather use it to improve your younger forwards.

So let's say that your forward gets 30 minutes at SF and 36 minutes at SG in the scrimmage. If you train PG/SG he will get 36 training minutes. He will also have 66 minutes total time for purposes of maintaining game shape.

As far as training SF, I would consider perhaps training them as a guard one season, and a forward the next. This might mean picking up a younger PF for the 2nd season, or a younger SG for the first season.

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28592.13 in reply to 28592.12
Date: 7/2/2008 5:26:02 PM
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what is the definiton of "trainee"?
Is it anyone up to 21 years old? 24?
At what point does someone become untrainable?
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28592.14 in reply to 28592.13
Date: 7/2/2008 6:16:15 PM
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hard to say ;)

I would say this depends alot on skills, most national players would become training with older then 24 ... I think my favorites trainees gets training even over 22 or so, but they startet best with 18-19 ... Biut if you cann't afford a good player you also could start with better skills, but slower training tempo with maybe a 21 year old etc.

You see you can make your training on several ways^^

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28592.15 in reply to 28592.13
Date: 7/3/2008 1:23:15 AM
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After a couple of seasons it will be difficult for most 18-19 YO to start for a team in league games, if the team wants to win games. With only 5 players on the court, it is hard to hide a weak player. So that means you are going to have to be training some players in their early 20s, and maybe use the youngest players in the scrimmage.

As time goes on, the age at which a player is considered trainable will continue to increase.