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2 seasons ago i was in bot league div 4. Draft had 8 5/5 players (was very excited, counted around 85% taking atleast 2, and like 27% taking third also), sadly only managed to snap 1....Oh and, everybody was MVP

Also had a streak before with like 10 seasons no 5/5 guy in old times, but nowadays it seems the probability is really jacked up. I am pretty sure it is average of ~2 players 5/5 in every draft, so ~95 %? should have atleast one.

But also need to have in account that most players are quite trash skillwise, so maybe lets count ~0,5 player per draft on average somewhat NT material.

Last edited by Vilkai [LTU NT] at 8/5/2020 1:29:01 PM

My current draft has no 5/5 18 year olds. Only 5/5 19 year old I found before deciding not to waste more points is only A rated.

In my draft there is 24x 18yo players, I have scouted 14: no 5 potentials so far... 10 left to scoot.


When i have a top choice, I only scoot 18 yo players... when not, I am more opened to 19 yo players...

19 year olds have become decent draftees now that they can have higher starting skills. Only difficulty is the grading wasn't adjusted to reflect that change, so it usually takes more good luck to select a good one or more draft points, which isn't really worth it since they are so expensive as it is.

That 19 years old player still can become a top player

Not quite. That player has almost no chance of starting in the NT in any BB Nation that is not a micronation, so he won't be a 'top player'.
- First, they need to be HoF, but unfortunately it's more likely they will be MVP.
- Second, they need to have real top notch skills because the salary requirements for 19yo (A+, A etc) are more lenient, in the sense that a A+ 19yo may have much shittier skills and bigger holes than a 18yo because the rating is based on salary not skills (so a few 8s and a lot of 1s can still end with A+...this is harder with skills limited to 7)
- Third, even if you do get a great 19yo HoF, it will likely be not enough because any 18yo will have a Youth Trainer for a whole extra season, not to mention that extra training year is at the fastest possible speed

There is no way anyone in his right mind would take a 19yo 5/5 A+ over ANY 18yo 5/5. And if you want to make a decent to good starter for D1, then you don't need to waste money on the draft: just pick up decent MVP or better prospect on the TL after the draft. You will save a lot of money.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/11/2020 5:31:51 PM

I never considered 19yo to be equal to 18yo, even in the short period of time between when they increased max skills to 8 and when they introduced the Youth Trainer. That is because, even with max skills increased to 8, on average a 19yo still had worse comparable skills and allowed for less customisation. They are definitely much worse again now, although not completely useless as they were originally.

This also explains why 19yo are dirt cheap on the TL after they are drafted. If you plan on drafting 19yos, you should just buy them on the TL, it's much cheaper.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/11/2020 5:32:55 PM

Feast your eyes on how many lucky people we have here who can't find a single 5/5 prospect. I refrained from replying last week, but 19yo shouldn't even be mentioned in this conversation. They are inferior in multiple ways, nobody should care or waste money in scouting them. Incidentally, these are the favourite target of those users who routinely try to make some money at the beginning of the season (with the buying and reselling scam), as they are very cheap after the draft.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 8/12/2020 9:45:43 AM

So I don't think its a 99% chance.

In my opinion I would rather say 50% chance to have a 5/5 18yo among the 24 players.