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Testing the "empty lineup prevention" code in Private League matches

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Date: 7/16/2014 6:27:44 AM
TrenseRI
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After the change there will not be so many position switching and substitutions as the GE is actually filling the depth chart, as best as it can, before the game starts. This means that the overall effect will be something more similar to having had a set lineup from the start.

It will override backup positions only in cases where there are any set, but, as I explained, that's not the only difference.

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Date: 7/16/2014 7:27:41 AM
Phoenix_Suns
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What happens if I set a BL with LCD except I fill e.g. player A for all three PG slots and player B for any other starting spot? Will the rest of the lineup be managed like before with all the position switches and substitutions?

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Date: 7/16/2014 9:53:53 AM
TrenseRI
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What happens if I set a BL with LCD except I fill e.g. player A for all three PG slots and player B for any other starting spot? Will the rest of the lineup be managed like before with all the position switches and substitutions?

Yes, exactly.

EDIT: We are still thinking of lowering the limit of allowed empty spots before the new code kicks in to three. If that happens, only the two starters would be kept in the new depth chart generation (as the new code would kick in, in the case you presented). All of the backups would be recalculated too.

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Date: 7/18/2014 11:48:49 AM
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I have only set the starting PG and the new code seemed to work pretty nicely in this game as my bench players took nice minutes, only my PF played a little bit longer, I think cause he is the best player of my team and coach wanted him long time in the court.

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Date: 7/18/2014 1:29:40 PM
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I am not sure if the minutes are right in my last private league match

BL vs WO

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Date: 7/18/2014 4:49:12 PM
white snake
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Marin, we have a problem.

The blank line up prevention has a bug.

I did a line up for todays PL game (71935045) with "sfdc (genau nach Aufstellung)":

Pos. - Slot 1 - Slot 2 - Slot 3
PG - Dalla Ba - Dalla Ba - Dalla Ba
SG - Nahit - Nahit - Jägersteig
SF - Kiebitz - Kiebitz - Jägersteig
PF - Zejun - Sutherland - Sutherland
C - Haek - Sutherland - Sutherland

At the beginning of the game, the GE changed my line up:

Pos. - Slot 1 - Slot 2 - Slot 3
PG - Dalla Ba - Dalla Ba - Dalla Ba
SG - Kiebitz - Nahit - Nahit
SF - Haek - Haek - Haek
PF - Zejun - Zejun - Zejun
C - Sutherland - Jägersteig - Jägersteig

Only my PG played like he should and my PF started at the right position. Everything else was changed.
I understand that the GE changes the lineup if you play LCD, but not if the GE should follow the chart.

Last edited by Nachtmahr at 7/18/2014 5:11:45 PM

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Date: 7/18/2014 4:57:04 PM
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In this game something strange happend: (72396926)

I took 12 players for the game. The only position I assigned a player to was PG. The player Pascal Buchwald (Center) (32524137) was set as starter, backup and reserve at PG. I intentionally took a C to play at PG to see what the coach would do with him.

The starting lineup looked like that (copied from play by play):

POS Starting-Five
PG J. Zozaya
SG J. Selva
SF B. Penkov
PF G. Marasco
C P. Buchwald

So the coach ignored my choice for PG.

I double checked my lineup by loading it after the game and my instructions were saved.

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The next game is of my first team and there something similar happend: (71938043)

Simon Harberg (24899288), a PG was chosen as PG in all three positions. But the starting lineup from the play by play looked like that:

POS Starting-Five
PG R. Geugelin
SG S. Harberg
SF G. Quellmelz
PF T. Harjans
C S. Hirschvogl

Simon played 34 minutes at SG, none at PG.

I checked the submitted lineup by loading it in a next game and my instructions have been saved.

In both matches the coaching choice was: let coach decide. If I understand the new code he should have let the chosen player play as starter at PG and the rest of the lineup should have been picked by him: the best player as backup / reserve at PG, and all the other positions filled with the best choice.

So in both games the coach totally ignored my instructions at PG-position. Do you have an explanation for that? Is it a bug?

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Date: 7/18/2014 5:17:27 PM
JokerAllstars
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My line up had 3 players. And 3 players played. No empty positions were filled up. I cannot see any difference... (???)

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Date: 7/18/2014 9:51:34 PM
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Whatever changes there were to the GE, they certainly affect more than BL/LCD.

I was using Strictly Follow and set both starters and backups in my Private League Game today. Here is the lineup I set, which I've confirmed after the fact by loading the former match tactics.

PG: T.Eller / B.Morse
SG: E.Riddick / M.Williams
SF: L.Kangguo / L.Givens
PF: A.Dzilums / F.McGovern
C: M.Georgiev / K.Tolbert

Here is what was used:

PG: T.Eller / B.Morse
SG: E.Riddick / L.Givens
SF: L.Kangguo / M.Williams
PF: M.Georgiev / F.McGovern
C: K.Tolbert / A.Dzilums

So at this point, it appears we really have almost no control over our lineups with this new GE. lol

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